Captain Planet Mafia. Final. Town + Neutral Wins.

I don't really know what happened yesterday or last night, it is hard to make out.

I am going to side with Derosis for now. If the detective really did fine something wrong with Derosis why hasn't he come forth. With the townie doctor gone I can understand the concern for not wanting to come forth.

With the events that just happened I really can't trust MasPan or Corn right now.

For now, [B][vote]Words[B]. Mostly to tie things up, but one of the two is probably going to need to roleclaim. I still think we need more information before we really decide who to lynch.

Uh, bandwagon it is. [MENTION=7446]Words[/MENTION]; whatchu up to? I figure you'll be popping in shortly.

Fine, how about we just vote anyone that hasn't role claimed then?

[Vote] @Words;

Really @Corn;, hippie crap? That's just douchey, if anything. Also, since there is a detective why don't you just tell them what you found of me? I'm a townie, I have nothing to be afraid of.

And why are you voting me? You're being suspicious not voting and then voting for me: an active poster that tries to help town.
Regardless, police already investigated Derosis and it would be silly not to report it, so I think it would be better to vote/get to post someone like Moldy who hasn't posted much and I think that he's just bwing.

I don't really know what happened yesterday or last night, it is hard to make out.

I am going to side with Derosis for now. If the detective really did fine something wrong with Derosis why hasn't he come forth. With the townie doctor gone I can understand the concern for not wanting to come forth.

With the events that just happened I really can't trust MasPan or Corn right now.

For now, [vote]Words. Mostly to tie things up, but one of the two is probably going to need to roleclaim. I still think we need more information before we really decide who to lynch.

I can't believe you guys are trusting a mafia's word over mine about my doctorship.

As an act of faith I'll retract my vote for Derosis.

And why are you voting me? You're being suspicious not voting and then voting for me: an active poster that tries to help town.
Regardless, police already investigated Derosis and it would be silly not to report it, so I think it would be better to vote/get to post someone like Moldy who hasn't posted much and I think that he's just bwing.

[COLOR="#cc8899"]Don't forget the detective investigated me on night 1 and said nothing as well (mostly intended for [MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION]; ).

Well there's a clue then. The person who broke in was the one who was digging through my stuff. Nothing was taken, though.

I'm fine with voting for someone who is mostly inactive, but Moldyvort has at least been voting and did vote for a mafian (though one who was essentially confirmed mafia by the time the vote came in).

[vote]ChaoticCJ
What do you mean you don't trust the only two confirmed townies?[/COLOR]

Thanks for the vote MasPan...I should have worded it better, but I am just unsure about what to make of this day. Anyways since I will probably die by vote today or tonight by mafia...

No one has been "confirmed" townie. We have just been under the assumption of townie. Netto was our protector/doctor. What is Corn? Which brings up the next point:

What do you mean you don't trust the only two confirmed townies?

Also, why is mafia keeping Corn alive?

"Planeteers, be aware, not everyone who fights pollution is on your side, there are those who are only out for themselves! Watch out for the one. . . the one. . . the one who looks like. . ."

Plus what Polantaris said. Again, why hasn't the mafia killed Corn?

Maybe I missed it, but was this answered? Maybe I just skipped it. This is the reason I don't trust Corn fully.

Don't forget the detective investigated me on night 1 and said nothing as well (mostly intended for [MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION]; ).

Then you vote for Derosis, who if he was investigated and the detective didn't say anything, then Derosis is probably town. You should know this. You just said it yourself you were also "investigated" and the detective didn't say anything. This means that we have a horrible detective or he is hiding. This means both you and Derosis are both mafia or you are both innocent. Which is why I don't understand the vote for Derosis.


I have to bring up another point even if it cost me my life; are we even sure we have a detective left? Was Afeared out only "detective"? MasPan were you listen on by Afreared and investigated? Did you get different messages to confirm this? [MENTION=5194]Derosis[/MENTION]; are you sure you were investigated and not something else? Has anyone else been investigated?


Here is how I have been breaking it down:

Corn/FenixR/MasPan: There is probably only 1 townie in this group. The other either Mafia or Neutral.
ChaoticCJ/Words/Derosis : At least 2 townies, if not all. (If I have to type it out...I am obviously one of the town)
Zelkova/Moldyvort/VerrKol : Again at least 1 townie. The same could have both Mafia and Neutral.


There is probably more to bring up, but I can't remember. Hopefully was can talk about it when its not the middle of the night.

Thanks for the vote MasPan...I should have worded it better, but I am just unsure about what to make of this day. Anyways since I will probably die by vote today or tonight by mafia...

No one has been "confirmed" townie. We have just been under the assumption of townie. Netto was our protector/doctor. What is Corn? Which brings up the next point:







Plus what Polantaris said. Again, why hasn't the mafia killed Corn?

Maybe I missed it, but was this answered? Maybe I just skipped it. This is the reason I don't trust Corn fully.



Then you vote for Derosis, who if he was investigated and the detective didn't say anything, then Derosis is probably town. You should know this. You just said it yourself you were also "investigated" and the detective didn't say anything. This means that we have a horrible detective or he is hiding. This means both you and Derosis are both mafia or you are both innocent. Which is why I don't understand the vote for Derosis.


I have to bring up another point even if it cost me my life; are we even sure we have a detective left? Was Afeared out only "detective"? MasPan were you listen on by Afreared and investigated? Did you get different messages to confirm this? [MENTION=5194]Derosis[/MENTION]; are you sure you were investigated and not something else? Has anyone else been investigated?


Here is how I have been breaking it down:

Corn/FenixR/MasPan: There is probably only 1 townie in this group. The other either Mafia or Neutral.
ChaoticCJ/Words/Derosis : At least 2 townies, if not all. (If I have to type it out...I am obviously one of the town)
Zelkova/Moldyvort/VerrKol : Again at least 1 townie. The same could have both Mafia and Neutral.

By your count, that would be 4 townies and 5 neutral/mafia remaining. Anything more than 2 neutrals, especially in such a small game, is excessive. That would still leave 3 mafia remaining. 5 mafia and 2 neutrals in a game of 15 players? That's incredibly unbalanced against the town. I don't see MetaSeraphim doing something like that.

There is probably more to bring up, but I can't remember. Hopefully was can talk about it when its not the middle of the night.

[COLOR="#cc8899"]That's why I changed my vote to you @ChaoticCJ. I wanted [MENTION=5194]Derosis[/MENTION]; to participate. He voted. I don't have anything specific at the moment to make me suspect [MENTION=7446]Words[/MENTION];, so I didn't bandwagon. I again question why you're backing the words of a confirmed mafian who:

1. Would be cheating if revealing fellow mafians
2. Could help his team even in death by convincing the town to lynch the doctor.

Afeared was a watcher, not a detective. Two seperate roles. Watchers in some variation see IF someone was acted on, by who, or what abilities affected them. Detectives investigate someone's alignment.

I was clearly investigated. The PM noted that someone had gone through my possessions after breaking into my home. I made this clear on Day 2 when I posted something to that effect. I'm getting rather annoyed at having to repeat myself to people multiple times.

[COLOR="#cc8899"]LIES AND SLANDER. I RECEIVED NO STEAK.

Well there's a clue then. The person who broke in was the one who was digging through my stuff. Nothing was taken, though.

So either
Someone is out there searching for an item/person, Afeared is the detective, and Corn is the doctor
or
Afeared is a watcher (NOT a detective), the detective investigated me, and Corn is the doctor

The mafia seemed to target me last night as well, though the broken window being related to the detective might imply that Corn was right - something else stopped the hit.

That still leaves at LEAST one other person who either visited or affected me last night. Possibly two. Both of them Planeteers. One of them tracked mud all over my carpet (might've been the detective). The other made me feel like the Grinch on Christmas.

Afeared: Are you ABSOLUTELY certain that the break-in and the person looking through my things were the same player? Or were those simply two events that you were told occurred?[/COLOR]

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[COLOR="#cc8899"]Double post to draw attention to something that I just noticed. ChaoticCJ, you commented:

Netto was our protector/doctor.

You all wake up and head to the main room all of you expecting a dead body, some of you more than others.

But when you all get there none of you find a dead body, just a massive hole in the ground and water all over the place.

The flavor text we received when someone was successfully protected involved water. Captain Planet FLEW his targets around for safety. This is clearly a separate individual. Your arguments against [MENTION=846]Corn[/MENTION]; involve twisting facts and citing the dying words of a mafia member.

You're growing more suspicious by the moment. You're either willfully ignoring previous events/posts or you're genuinely not paying attention to them. Either one is extremely harmful to the town as things stand.

I'm also curious why you keep expecting [MENTION=7446]Words[/MENTION]; specifically to provide support for your arguments.[/COLOR]

Mhhmmkay. I've "winded" Derosis, and each time it had "missed" him

The power of WIND skips over Derosis and hits Polantaris instead.

You tried to use your power of WIND on Derosis but it hit MasPan instead.

You once again try to use wind on Derosis, but your action once again misses him and instead hits FenixR.

It seems like our water themed compatriot has remained alive and protecting us.

[MENTION=5147]Moldyvort[/MENTION]; You haven't talked in a while lol nice timing

So Derosis has something protecting him...

Mhhmmkay. I've "winded" Derosis, and each time it had "missed" him

The power of WIND skips over Derosis and hits Polantaris instead.

You tried to use your power of WIND on Derosis but it hit MasPan instead.

You once again try to use wind on Derosis, but your action once again misses him and instead hits FenixR.

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Ok, so either the bus driver (if they exists) was not responsible for Corn's failure to protect Captain Planet last night or Derosis has protection from night abilities in some way. Netto died last night, so he could conceivably have protected Derosis from your ability, but that wouldn't explain why it hit someone else instead.

Confirming the wind hit on night 2. I'll edit this post with a quote backing this up with a breadcrumb momentarily.

IF you were targeted by a Bus Driver, this would mean that someone else targeted [MENTION=6709]FenixR[/MENTION]; last night.

Corn didn't apparently successfully protect anyone last night due to a lack of flavor text. MetaSeraphim made it clear when that had happened.

I'm not sure what to make of Derosis being untargetable, but that implies that he's a neutral or a godfather (mafia role immune to detection). A townie being immune to night actions is really strong and unlikely, implying mafia or at best a neutral (though he could be a town-friendly neutral).[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#cc8899"]I thought that was you when I read the flavor.

As far as I know, I was not attacked last night. However, I did wind up with a visitor of some sort. I'm not sure what they did, but the flavor in my PM read positively. If the mafia keeps failing to kill anyone we might just breeze through this game easily

For now I'll be reviewing who all voted for Afeared yesterday. He certainly didn't help his case with the way he posted, but I distinctly remember backing his watcher claim several times and being blatantly ignored. [/COLOR]

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Please see the blue text for breadcrumbs confirming being hit by wind on night 2. I believe you @Moldyvort. Wind implies the blonde planeteer - in my mind confirmed townie. However, I don't think you're the detective - I was investigated on Night 1, not Night 2.[/COLOR]

You once again try to use wind on Derosis, but your action once again misses him and instead hits FenixR.

I honestly doubt this last bit, i wasn't attacked last night otherwise i would have receive some flavor text telling me that. Nor any night for that matter.

I am to believe that you are role claiming as the the wind user moldyvort?

@ChaoticCJ You vote for me, then wait for my approval, then say I'm suspicious again, then say I'm probably town but you don't strike the vote you made earlier. What is it then? Do you think I'm town or not? Why are you contradicting yourself? Why are you believing in a dying mafia?
vote ChaoticCJ Convince me that I should vote otherwise.

@Zelkova Why are you voting for me again? I don't like how you keep following the scummiest people. I don't get why you're so lynch-thirsty, started lynch d1, wanted to RNG your yesterday's vote. Mind explaining? Also, Polantaris protected you too much...

Right now either of you two are the safest lynch.
Oh, I forgot... all those roles confuse me. But mostly it makes me feel pissed off at Netto, even if he didn't out his role he could've made it MUCH clearer so we wouldn't be in this situation right now ._.

@ChaoticCJ You vote for me, then wait for my approval, then say I'm suspicious again, then say I'm probably town but you don't strike the vote you made earlier. What is it then? Do you think I'm town or not? Why are you contradicting yourself? Why are you believing in a dying mafia?
vote ChaoticCJ Convince me that I should vote otherwise.

@Zelkova Why are you voting for me again? I don't like how you keep following the scummiest people. I don't get why you're so lynch-thirsty, started lynch d1, wanted to RNG your yesterday's vote. Mind explaining? Also, Polantaris protected you too much...

Right now either of you two are the safest lynch.
Oh, I forgot... all those roles confuse me. But mostly it makes me feel pissed off at Netto, even if he didn't out his role he could've made it MUCH clearer so we wouldn't be in this situation right now ._.

I didn't vote for you, I wanted you to post.

I wanted to RNG my vote that day because I was too busy with people stealing large sums of money from me IRL to play mafia.

I didn't vote for you, I wanted you to post.

I wanted to RNG my vote that day because I was too busy with people stealing large sums of money from me IRL to play mafia.

RNG this late in the game is just as useless as not voting at all and potentially more harmful. The only purpose in RNG is when there is nothing to judge anyone off of (usually only the very first day). Why not just post that you were occupied with real life matters and leave it at that instead of all of this monkey business?

RNG this late in the game is just as useless as not voting at all and potentially more harmful. The only purpose in RNG is when there is nothing to judge anyone off of (usually only the very first day). Why not just post that you were occupied with real life matters and leave it at that?

I wanted to at least try to vote before people got too antsy and thought I was hiding something.

I wanted to at least try to vote before people got too antsy and thought I was hiding something.

As long as it doesn't become a habit from people (especially at bad times) I'm not about to jump on someone for having a real life concern to deal with. It would take a serious and glaring example of someone lying about that for me to question it. Happens more often than you'd think.

Mhhmmkay. I've "winded" Derosis, and each time it had "missed" him

The power of WIND skips over Derosis and hits Polantaris instead.

You tried to use your power of WIND on Derosis but it hit MasPan instead.

You once again try to use wind on Derosis, but your action once again misses him and instead hits FenixR.

Derosis is obviously immune to your power. Which makes things interesting and more complicated.

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By your count, that would be 4 townies and 5 neutral/mafia remaining. Anything more than 2 neutrals, especially in such a small game, is excessive. That would still leave 3 mafia remaining. 5 mafia and 2 neutrals in a game of 15 players? That's incredibly unbalanced against the town. I don't see MetaSeraphim doing something like that.


That's why I changed my vote to you @ChaoticCJ. I wanted [MENTION=5194]Derosis[/MENTION]; to participate. He voted. I don't have anything specific at the moment to make me suspect [MENTION=7446]Words[/MENTION];, so I didn't bandwagon. I again question why you're backing the words of a confirmed mafian who:

1. Would be cheating if revealing fellow mafians
2. Could help his team even in death by convincing the town to lynch the doctor.

Afeared was a watcher, not a detective. Two seperate roles. Watchers in some variation see IF someone was acted on, by who, or what abilities affected them. Detectives investigate someone's alignment.

I was clearly investigated. The PM noted that someone had gone through my possessions after breaking into my home. I made this clear on Day 2 when I posted something to that effect. I'm getting rather annoyed at having to repeat myself to people multiple times.

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I said at least 1/2/1. There are at least 5 townies left. That means a 5/2/2 or a 6/2/1 in town/mafia/neutral. The point of the "at least".

As for why I suspected Corn.

But, before he died it seems like Captain Planet was able to leave a message for everyone.



"Planeteers, be aware, not everyone who fights pollution is on your side, there are those who are only out for themselves! Watch out for the one. . . the one. . . the one who looks like. . ."

Which is why I wasn't sure about Corn. You seem to keep ignoring this. Unless the mafia planted the note.

So your 100% sure you were investigated and not searched? There is a difference. Especially if someone is looking for something. This is why I asked. Okay then, you were investigated I guess. Everyone seems so willing to go after Derosis even though he is just a much townie as you. You know this and you still vote for him to "participate." What about Zelkova, Moldyvort, or Verkoll? Before each posted, they are FAR more suspicious than Derosis yet people continue to go after him. This is what I don't understand.

[COLOR="#cc8899"]Double post to draw attention to something that I just noticed. ChaoticCJ, you commented:

The flavor text we received when someone was successfully protected involved water. Captain Planet FLEW his targets around for safety. This is clearly a separate individual. Your arguments against [MENTION=846]Corn[/MENTION]; involve twisting facts and citing the dying words of a mafia member.

You're growing more suspicious by the moment. You're either willfully ignoring previous events/posts or you're genuinely not paying attention to them. Either one is extremely harmful to the town as things stand.

I'm also curious why you keep expecting [MENTION=7446]Words[/MENTION]; specifically to provide support for your arguments.[/COLOR]

There is a difference between twisting the facts and not knowing anything about Captain Planet. Plus you are explaining things I didn't consider, which is helpful to the town. That leave 1 ring user left? Unless you know something I don't.

@ChaoticCJ You vote for me, then wait for my approval, then say I'm suspicious again, then say I'm probably town but you don't strike the vote you made earlier. What is it then? Do you think I'm town or not? Why are you contradicting yourself? Why are you believing in a dying mafia?
[B]vote ChaoticCJ[B] Convince me that I should vote otherwise.

Right now either of you two are the safest lynch.
Oh, I forgot... all those roles confuse me. But mostly it makes me feel pissed off at Netto, even if he didn't out his role he could've made it MUCH clearer so we wouldn't be in this situation right now ._.

I suggest you read a little harder. I did strike out my vote for you. It say I did it 25 mins after my 2nd post. I said the only reason I was siding with Derosis is because so many people are against him when we have no evidence that he is mafia. In fact, if he was investigated he is probably more town that anyone else. Also how am I supposed to know if your town or not? As for believing the dying mafia, has no one read Captain Planets' last words?

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Ok, so either the bus driver (if they exists) was not responsible for Corn's failure to protect Captain Planet last night or Derosis has protection from night abilities in some way. Netto died last night, so he could conceivably have protected Derosis from your ability, but that wouldn't explain why it hit someone else instead.

Confirming the wind hit on night 2. I'll edit this post with a quote backing this up with a breadcrumb momentarily.

IF you were targeted by a Bus Driver, this would mean that someone else targeted [MENTION=6709]FenixR[/MENTION]; last night.

Corn didn't apparently successfully protect anyone last night due to a lack of flavor text. MetaSeraphim made it clear when that had happened.

I'm not sure what to make of Derosis being untargetable, but that implies that he's a neutral or a godfather (mafia role immune to detection). A townie being immune to night actions is really strong and unlikely, implying mafia or at best a neutral (though he could be a town-friendly neutral).[/COLOR]

I think we do have a bus driver, I had assumed they targeted mafia to kill a mafia on the 1st night. I think they target me on Night 2, which is why I am concerned and why I keep bring up Words. Corn seems to be night 3's target.

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"Planeteers, be aware, not everyone who fights pollution is on your side, there are those who are only out for themselves! Watch out for the one. . . the one. . . the one who looks like. . ."

There is another message right below that one.


"Remember. The Power is Yours!"

[MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION]; I fail to see how this refers to Corn specifically.

Could be saying "looks like a butler" in reference to

The first one belongs to someone that none of you have seen before. He kind of looks like a butler though.

Could be saying "looks like me" - It could be a reference to Ted Turner dressing up as Captain Planet killing folks for all we know. Originally thought it would be a reference to Captain Pollution, honestly, but the "fights pollution" part disagrees with that.


Could be anything. It's so irritatingly cryptic that any information we get from it is too vague to use on its own and won't likely be useful until it's too late or too obvious anyway.[/COLOR]

I am 100% sure I am a doctor. I use water, but I'm not going to say any more than that.

What I am going to say is I'm a cunning little bastard.

I have lied only once in this entire mafia game, and that one lie is THE ONLY reason why we had a mafia death that one night, and no one killed the other night. That lie has made Polantaris go WHAT THE HELL IS WITH CORN and made ChaoticCJ really suspicious of me as to why I'm not dead yet. It makes ChaoticCJ 90% innocent in my eyes, since I'm honestly surprised no one else picked up on that.

My not-cleared list consists of Curtiss, Zelkova, and Verrkol now. Potentially Derosis too, but I'm inclined that he's innocent because the detective hasn't come out yet. I'm also slightly hesitant of Words, but his voting pattern seems to make him innocent. Moldyvort has a timely roleclaim...

vote Verrkol