Any 4th job Warriors getting Stance?

Of course I'm being drastic. No MMO's economy is supposed to be based around services. That's not what they're for. They're all about the production of goods. The fact that pretty much the main two ways to make money in Maple, now, are prostitution (Leeching) and scamming (Merchanting) proves there's something wrong. Maple's economy is now too dependent on these things. pineapple, every single one of these so-called "Services" directly undermines the game's purpose. Don't wanna level up? Buy some leech! Don't like your equips? Buy a slot in a Zakum run! Don't have the skills you need? Not to worry, some profiteer will come by soon enough and offer you a way to get it, for a nominal fee of course.

Okay, and where does it say that besides in your mind's idealistic view of how things should be? I've never sold leech, nor will I. I've never "merchanted," nor will I. But that doesn't mean I'd be so dense as to realize they aren't near as EVIL as you make them out to be. Goodness gracious.

I have no idea why you're sitting so high and mighty on your high horse on this matter. Where the heck is this "game's purpose" you keep referring to? Can you show it to me? This GAME'S PURPOSE is to have fun, like any game. Everyone achieves that in a different way; and so long as that fun doesn't come at the cost of making others suffer, why does it matter how they do?

Oh, and I'd love to hear your views about the perfect society where everyone should be able to Zak when and with whoever they want. A system is needed. I hope even you can realize that...but now that's opening a whole new can.

Hell, what's left in the game? Basically what we have now is people pouring money into Gachapon, selling Gachapon items, then using those mesos to level up their character They don't play it at all until 120, at which point they have no idea what they're doing and quit shortly afterward. Can you really sit there and tell me that this is right? That THIS should be encouraged, that it should even be allowed? Hell, it's hurting Nexon in the long run because these people would likely be playing much longer without leeching, and spent more money over time, than they would with their little binge-gach and leech routine.

Translation: BAWWWWWW Why are you still playing MS?

Where was I calling this RIGHT? Goodness how many more people can miss my point? Let them play the game how they want, and you can play the game how you want. I take pride in leveling my character myself. But there's nothing wrong with people who'd rather do it other ways. Sure, we all have our opinions about them. But tell me, if they are affecting your ability to have fun so much, why are you playing? And Lol @ the Nexon statement. Oh yeah, it's hurting Nexon big time. Destroying 'em.

Maybe my example is a bit extreme, but that's how it really works. When these people are out in the real world, trying to make money, what will they reflect on? They remember how they made money in games, by selling off something that shouldn't have been sold in the first place. By taking advantage of the poor to make a quick buck. Hell, this is how we got into the current financial crisis: exploiting the poor with subprime loans to make a profit. This is just training people that that's how you make money, and it's going to set us up for another disaster in the future.

Yeah, your example is pathetically extreme. That was just stupid. No, it isn't how it really works. It's like the idiots that preach violence in video games creates violent kids. HURRRRR. It's called bad parenting. The vast majority of the population playing MS isn't going to go and do what they did in MS in real life. I love your last statement. MS = corrupting the future and making an evil society! HECK YES, it's the downfall of the world as we know it.

I Do not merchant. I do not sell quest items, or leech, or anything of that sort. I will never take part in such activities. I guess that means I'll be stuck with no more than 10 mil forever, but I'd rather be poor and maintain my morals than give in and support this corruption. Hell, if I wanted to, I could use my inside knowledge of what items quests will need from KMS or whatever, and stock up on those, and sell them at patch time for a tidy profit. But I have never done this. I gave everyone fair warning about Red Whips for Legendary Spirit, a detailed list of quest items for Showa, Emeralds for Singapore... I believe that these kinds of things should be shared, and that just because I have the ability to take advantage of a situation, doesn't mean that I should.

Congrats, neither do I. BUT WAIT. I do participate and help groups that sell Zhelms and HT pendants. Oh frick, I'm evil. I am a terrible person for assisting a group and other players who want Zhelms/Pends. I am even more terrible to expect a small payment for my time and own money spent. Absolutely evil. And yeah, you should totally be whining about being poor. Your character is doing just fine, and if you weren't such an extremist riding upon high, you'd be doing even better.

Just because this is how it is, doesn't mean this is how it has to be. Be a man, take a stand, and don't take part.

Thanks for the sermon. I actually do take a stand against many of the things that have become common practice in MS (leeching, merchanting, gaching, etc). Heck, I'm a huge moralfag myself, but I'm not too dense to see things with an open mind.