2012-07-30, 07:10 PM
Flonne Wrote:Totally works for illegal drugs, right? I guess smuggling is impossible for guns.
1. We're not discussing drugs.
2. I already posted statics proving that less guns=less murders and crime.
3. Statics that prove you wrong.
4. Most of the murders/crimes that happen/happened here involve illegal guns, yet murder/crime rate was reduced by enforcing gun control policies.
5. Why is it so hard to accept? Gun control help prevents crime. It's a fact.
Flonn Wrote:OK then, let me put it another way; a gun supporter would tell a person that wants gun control and will not listen to any reasonable arguments for freedom to carry this: the deaths that supposedly could have been avoided with stricter gun laws are a risk worth taking and even worth dying for. Anyone can move somewhere else if they don't like or agree with that, nobody is stopping them. To subvert and change it for everyone in the entire country is an incredibly selfish thing to do when there are PLENTY of other countries out there that have strict gun laws.
Oh, god... I'm glad others already dealt with this.
ElderTree Wrote:Yes, eliminate the shooter when more trained people are packing and the problem goes away.
Why? Does people even read previous posts?
There's evidence that supports that less guns= less crimes.
Same guns, same shooters, more guns, more shooters, educated ones or not= danger.
The Great One Wrote:The thing you keep forgetting is that there will never be less guns. You can have less legally owned guns sure but since most gun crimes are committed with illegal guns anyway there's really no point.
It doesn't matter. Most of the murders/crimes that happen/happened here involve illegal guns, yet murder/crime rate was reduced by enforcing gun control policies. One of the links I posted earlier has something about it... they're in spanish, though.
Worthyness Wrote:And then what happens when the gun ban doesn't decrease gun related crimes? Or increases it? Guns for sure will never be off the streets- that's practically a guarantee.
What the states really need to focus on is a way to limit the merchanting of high power weaponry and ammo.
Again: Most of the murders/crimes that happen/happened here involve illegal guns, yet murder/crime rate was reduced by enforcing gun control policies.
I agree with the second part, though. If US can't limit all guns, at least limit the ones that people have no need for.