Poll: Do you try to play as "legit" as possible?
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Yes, I try to play legit to the fullest. I even stay away from duped gear/scrolls as much as I can.
76.92%
60 76.92%
I try to be, but I cannot resist the duped items.
11.54%
9 11.54%
I do not hack and I am against hacking unless it benefits me somehow (duped/hacked gear).
6.41%
5 6.41%
don't care for the legit at all. Let the hackers hack. Don't care if it is bad for the game
5.13%
4 5.13%
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Am I the only one who tries to play as "legit" as possible?
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iAmFear Wrote:Well, I'm against flaunting in general, though I can't say there aren't times when I do it myself, it peeves me when botters and hackers go and say they were the first to kill a major boss or get to 200 on a new character, since they know they didn't accomplish that through legitimate means, at all. It makes no difference to me on what side you're on, it irks me, flaunting is just a means for you to boast superiority over someone else, whether it's "I'm better than you because I do 999,999 x 100 every second" or "Ugh, I can't believe you don't follow the rules like I do". I have to place part of the blame for the damage-oriented mentality on the design of the game though, with time limits and damage reductions, in the end it's a game of doing as much damage as you can.
I'm against flaunting in general as well, unless you're flaunting something that you've accomplished with actual effort, diligence, and hard work (unlike what hackers flaunt). But even then, flaunting it too much is bad.

iAmFear Wrote:Yeah, real money is spent on this game, but you do pay for other games, consoles, etc, and that doesn't make them not games. While paying for games used to be a one-time thing, the advent of DLC has made spending on games more similar to Maple. Sure, there probably isn't much destructive potential, I guess, in paying for DLC, but there wasn't much harm in buying NX initially, just for clothes and what not. While you can go and profit off Maple, or lose everything, that doesn't change that it is, in fact, still just a game.
Well yeah, but in a game like maple, individuals are highly affected by what others do (part of the destructive potential you mention). I have never lost sight of that.

iAmFear Wrote:I don't see a problem with them choosing option one, simply because they have different views on legitimacy than you do. People answer polls based on how they feel, not how the poll taker wants them to feel, after all. Though, I take back what I said about your option one earlier, it's more gray than Super Ultra Mega Legit. The keywords are "try to play legit", and "stay away from duped gear/scrolls as much as I can". As long as they see their negative actions as little blemishes rather than large stains, it still applies to them, in my eyes, and their eyes as well. You can't blame them for categorizing themselves as this, despite it not being exactly how you might feel.
Yep, I should've made that option more Super Ultra Mega Legit by not mentioning the vague parts. But then again, option two, while I now understand wasn't completely clear either, is clear enough to let them know there's a difference. That difference being: taking advantage of dupe items large or small.

iAmFear Wrote:It seems to me, you already know the stance you want to take, especially if your view hasn't changed from these responses. Understanding and acceptance aren't necessarily the same, I agree that okay and right aren't the same things, but I also think if it's viewed as okay or acceptable, then I'm not gonna bite someone's head off for wanting to do it, and if it were bad enough, I would try to convince them to do otherwise, but ultimately it's their choice. It's not that people don't understand this difference, between okay and right, but they choose okay rather than right, and just because they understand that doesn't mean they're willing to accept your viewpoint, you know.

I admire your strong feelings toward this, in contrast to the apathy that I've developed for these things.
I appreciate that you see things from my point of view, I kind of see things from yours as well. I guess I should be a bit more apathetic about this than I am to take off some of the pressure I put on myself to do what's "right".
iAmFear Wrote:Also, a massive amount of 60% weapon scrolls were introduced into the market a year or two ago, enough to devalue many of them, and making stacks of hundreds of 60% scrolls common in FM shops, by means of some exploit with Jr. Balrog summoning sacks, I don't know if you would consider them crappy, or not, but there's something, they're not duped, exactly, but they were exploited.
While I'd still consider them crappy, it does complicate things a bit for those like myself.

The Great One Wrote:So stop saying that you are you either are or you aren't there isn't a middle ground. The middle ground or grey area whatever your trying to defend is the justifications you are trying to make for yourself it's not necessary what the people who you know, made the rules has said. So yes it is quite black and white as to what is legit and what is not.

Your calling what I'm saying ignorant then please by all means inform me of what you all call yourselves. All I keep hearing is "I'm legit but I do X" I consider Y not legit but Z is fine as long as your not using W to do it. So until then we only have the legit and not legit buttons. And no, the middle ground option doesn't work because everyone has their own little definition of what that middle ground is

I don't deny anything you've said here. But from my perspective, what you seemed to be arguing for is something such as "a hacker is just as illegit as someone who unknowingly bought 1 duped scroll by accident". The brazenness of such a view is what I think is ignorant.
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Am I the only one who tries to play as "legit" as possible? - by IImaplers - 2012-07-13, 10:41 AM

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