2012-07-13, 10:04 AM
Well, I'm against flaunting in general, though I can't say there aren't times when I do it myself, it peeves me when botters and hackers go and say they were the first to kill a major boss or get to 200 on a new character, since they know they didn't accomplish that through legitimate means, at all. It makes no difference to me on what side you're on, it irks me, flaunting is just a means for you to boast superiority over someone else, whether it's "I'm better than you because I do 999,999 x 100 every second" or "Ugh, I can't believe you don't follow the rules like I do". I have to place part of the blame for the damage-oriented mentality on the design of the game though, with time limits and damage reductions, in the end it's a game of doing as much damage as you can.
Yeah, real money is spent on this game, but you do pay for other games, consoles, etc, and that doesn't make them not games. While paying for games used to be a one-time thing, the advent of DLC has made spending on games more similar to Maple. Sure, there probably isn't much destructive potential, I guess, in paying for DLC, but there wasn't much harm in buying NX initially, just for clothes and what not. While you can go and profit off Maple, or lose everything, that doesn't change that it is, in fact, still just a game.
I don't see a problem with them choosing option one, simply because they have different views on legitimacy than you do. People answer polls based on how they feel, not how the poll taker wants them to feel, after all. Though, I take back what I said about your option one earlier, it's more gray than Super Ultra Mega Legit. The keywords are "try to play legit", and "stay away from duped gear/scrolls as much as I can". As long as they see their negative actions as little blemishes rather than large stains, it still applies to them, in my eyes, and their eyes as well. You can't blame them for categorizing themselves as this, despite it not being exactly how you might feel.
It seems to me, you already know the stance you want to take, especially if your view hasn't changed from these responses. Understanding and acceptance aren't necessarily the same, I agree that okay and right aren't the same things, but I also think if it's viewed as okay or acceptable, then I'm not gonna bite someone's head off for wanting to do it, and if it were bad enough, I would try to convince them to do otherwise, but ultimately it's their choice. It's not that people don't understand this difference, between okay and right, but they choose okay rather than right, and just because they understand that doesn't mean they're willing to accept your viewpoint, you know.
I admire your strong feelings toward this, in contrast to the apathy that I've developed for these things.
Also, a massive amount of 60% weapon scrolls were introduced into the market a year or two ago, enough to devalue many of them, and making stacks of hundreds of 60% scrolls common in FM shops, by means of some exploit with Jr. Balrog summoning sacks, I don't know if you would consider them crappy, or not, but there's something, they're not duped, exactly, but they were exploited.
Yeah, real money is spent on this game, but you do pay for other games, consoles, etc, and that doesn't make them not games. While paying for games used to be a one-time thing, the advent of DLC has made spending on games more similar to Maple. Sure, there probably isn't much destructive potential, I guess, in paying for DLC, but there wasn't much harm in buying NX initially, just for clothes and what not. While you can go and profit off Maple, or lose everything, that doesn't change that it is, in fact, still just a game.
I don't see a problem with them choosing option one, simply because they have different views on legitimacy than you do. People answer polls based on how they feel, not how the poll taker wants them to feel, after all. Though, I take back what I said about your option one earlier, it's more gray than Super Ultra Mega Legit. The keywords are "try to play legit", and "stay away from duped gear/scrolls as much as I can". As long as they see their negative actions as little blemishes rather than large stains, it still applies to them, in my eyes, and their eyes as well. You can't blame them for categorizing themselves as this, despite it not being exactly how you might feel.
It seems to me, you already know the stance you want to take, especially if your view hasn't changed from these responses. Understanding and acceptance aren't necessarily the same, I agree that okay and right aren't the same things, but I also think if it's viewed as okay or acceptable, then I'm not gonna bite someone's head off for wanting to do it, and if it were bad enough, I would try to convince them to do otherwise, but ultimately it's their choice. It's not that people don't understand this difference, between okay and right, but they choose okay rather than right, and just because they understand that doesn't mean they're willing to accept your viewpoint, you know.
I admire your strong feelings toward this, in contrast to the apathy that I've developed for these things.
Also, a massive amount of 60% weapon scrolls were introduced into the market a year or two ago, enough to devalue many of them, and making stacks of hundreds of 60% scrolls common in FM shops, by means of some exploit with Jr. Balrog summoning sacks, I don't know if you would consider them crappy, or not, but there's something, they're not duped, exactly, but they were exploited.