2012-07-10, 06:21 PM
Zenkat Wrote:This is the argument people make that i cant understand. In D2, it was rush rush rush to level, wear good gear, beat Baal in hell. Then endless Baal runs for eternity for a few more levels that dont make you a whole lot stronger.
It was mostly the Cow Level from what I remember. But that might have changed later on in the game's life, I don't know. I haven't played it recently. Even so, you still actually beat the game. What you choose to do from there is your own decision. If you want to make your character more powerful for no reason, go right ahead. In D3 you don't even get the pleasure of beating the game before they force equipment farming.
Zenkat Wrote:In D3, the game actually has a challenging aspect to it to make you find the gear you need to progress, and hone your killing skills to progress. Because people cant beat inferno with garbage gear within a few weeks, people are outraged. If you dont like long-winded games, then GTFO. I'm planning to play this thing to the end. That means beating Inferno with all 5 classes in softcore. Maybe i'm just getting old and dont mind taking my time with the progression. I never feel let down because my farming runs always end up getting me gold even I cant use the rares i find. Eventually that gold leads to better items for all my classes.
It's challenging to repeat the same activities you know you will succeed at a thousand times over so that you can continue on with the game? How is that challenging?
I have no problem with long winded games. I played, beat, and completed Dragon Quest VII, the single longest PSX game (Over 100 hours just to beat the game, not including grinding, this is pure content, and another 100+ to beat the bonus dungeons). I have a problem with doing the SAME EXACT thing over and over and over, and seeing absolutely no change, no reward, nothing. I have absolutely no issue with long games. Hell, I've always loved long games. I hate pointless games. Inferno makes the game pointless.
Zenkat Wrote:And we must not forget about PVP and the legendaries buff. I'm quite looking forward to those additions.
Because PVP is anything but one sided, and Legendaries are going to just make the grind take that much longer, and be that much more pointless. Yay for looking forward to that.
Zenkat Wrote:TL;DR - kids are pineappleing impatient these days. Maybe i'm biased because i took over 6 years to reach 200 on my Hero in Maplestory.I'm not a kid and I'm not impatient. I simply have a problem with wasting my precious few personal hours doing essentially nothing.
Biased because you took 6 years to get 200? I've been playing MapleStory since GMS was in early beta and I still do not have a Lv.200 character, and have no intense care to get one. I enjoy the game the way it is and don't waste countless hours grinding, instead doing whatever I find fun within the game. Can the game be improved? Certainly. Is it worse than Diablo 3? Not by a long shot. At least you can still do things without the perfect gear you need in D3.
To quote (for truth) a friend who I just mentioned this entire argument to:
"Not even Monster Hunter is this bad. Ragnarok Online MVP card hunting is even more worthwhile than D3 equipment farming."