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Does God exist: A hopefully civil and fruitful debate
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Eos Wrote:Why is there no point of discussing it if it exists outside our own logic?
And why would it need to exist outside our logic, if our logic is merely a virtual extension of our creator's?
We are capable of discussing and exploring most anything through analogy; we translate everything into the nearest closest analog until we understand it well enough to be it's own individual concept which we then use to further extend other analogies.

My understanding was the question being asked was 'Does a God Exist' not "does it matter".
I think there are three answers to "Does a God Exist" -- yes, no, and "I don't know". He seems to have picked the latter, which may also come across as "it doesn't matter" (these two are often directly tied, for obvious reasons).

To refine this further, there is really only one answer, and that is "I don't know", because truthfully, we don't know. But if we were to get really philosophical here, we as humans don't really know anything. Everything we believe in is a theory, no matter how grounded we think it might be, as that "grounding" is based on other concepts which are theories themselves. I'd assume this is why he meant there was nothing to discuss. Otherwise, I'm not sure.

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Just for fun, I want to voice my actual opinion on the question in the OP. My personal view is that of "we don't know, we can't know, and it also doesn't matter". But it's not that it doesn't matter because we can't know - it's that it doesn't matter because the answer would not change my life or how I live it in any way, shape, or form.

I don't believe in devoting myself to any sort of "authority" figure - whether that be a God, or even a human figure like a parent, teacher, etc. - and this is regardless of whether said figure is real or not. I don't personally go out of my way to conform to a given set of rules (except the obvious "generally accepted" societal rules that are more-or-less unavoidable). I feel that, within the realms of "live and let live", I can make my own decisions that are only governed by said societal laws, nothing more.

Furthermore, I don't owe anything to a higher power nor do I entertain the notion of after-life. That's something I can worry about when I get there (if I do!). I marvel in the fact that I rely upon my own abilities to achieve what I want rather than treat everything as "God's will". It seems almost too easy to do that.


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Does God exist: A hopefully civil and fruitful debate - by Leaves - 2012-07-07, 10:13 PM

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