Does God exist: A hopefully civil and fruitful debate

and that brings us back to the point that if god exists outside the realm of logic then there's no point in discussing it.

God does not (at least not because of that argument) exist outside of the realm of logic, that object you defined as "a rock heavier than can be lifted" is, however, outside of the realm of logic. You are insisting on attributing to God what was apparently a fault of the argument.

Revise your definition of God

Ninja edit here, don't know if it resolves any tension.

Personally, if I were talking about God's kind of goodness, I would have to buy into the universal stance of objective moral values. What we perceive to be good may or may not be actually good. It could be begging the question to claim that God himself created those values of good, but I don't think it is, as him acting in such a way that he already does is a tautology and not a contradiction.