2008-11-24, 07:42 PM
blitzkrieg Wrote:they're trying to prove that fire burner is useful during higher levels after maxing amp (which would come after cannon). the two high leveled training areas available on kMS are jr. newties and skelegons. I don't have enough HP for skelegons so I went to jr. newties to test the reaction time, which would be the same at skelegons. if you plan to mob centaurs during 14x, feel free to go test the skills there yourself. I can't speak for himes or spiders since kMS doesn't have either.
also, fire burner is NOT inferno. they're two totally different skills used by two completely different classes with different playing styles. if you want to argue the case for inferno, it shouldn't be done in pirate threads.
steve, do you still think fire burner is a good idea in fourth job after all my arguments against it? lol
Fine, compromise time.
Torpedo beats burner and cooling in mowing down mobs.
Burner and cooling beats torpedo until it's at a decent level.
Skill book availability: UNKNOWN. (seriously, can i has data on that pls? D: )
Torpedo saves inventory space and has longer horizontal range.
Burner and cooling has better vertical range but worse horizontal range.
Conclusion for global maplestory: Burner is still worth it to max as a general mobbing skill until you get 15+ torpedo, where it will only be used in the extremely off chance your ship is down. (for the record, i still have no idea how burner and cooling fare at himes so once we get more outlaws out there with burner... :O)
Fine with you? :/
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:I asked a while back about Gaviota getting replaced. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that it boils down to gaviota vs. flame burner. To me, gaviota is "helpful" when at newties but I never count on it to help me train, octopus does a much better job at that. Pretty sure takebacker said that if any skill replaces gaviota, it will be support octo as I thought Air Strike would but you can use both skills at the same time.
I think the question has to be looked at this angle and answer these two questions:
- What's the difference between 15 and 30 gaviota? Will it have a good boost at the later levels or does levle 15 get the job done?
- Will it be viable to be used in training once you have support octo/air strike?
Compare those questions with flame burner and that's how you can decide.
The first one: The difference is like...3k damage per hit if i remember correctly. 6k per hit at max and 3k per hit at level 15. I'm a little fuzzy on the numbers so i'm sure shrapnel will fix that for me. xD
The second: No. You do NOT want to be bothered with recasting it at newties, because if you pause to cast it even if it takes a fraction of a second your killing speed will go down for a measly 6k per hit on a single newtie.