The LoL Patches thread

I'm not sure what you mean kaj. The buff is stupid strong to be having pre-30 minutes.

The simple mistake in my scenario was the jungler calling for a drag while a man down. It was meant to show solic how those 20-25 minute barons go down. It is definitely possible to do and will likely snowball the game in said team's favor.

Your example is just not going to convince me that Baron needs to be stronger. I can't make the jungler make the correct decision if he's not willing to go through with it. Last night, Garen and Shyvana did not go for the top inhibitor when they had 30 seconds to destroy it unopposed. We even yelled at them to do it, but they just sat there farming mid lane. GG.

You need solid concrete evidence to argue your case (Baron needs buffs so that people can't have something stupid strong pre-30 minutes). The link you posted doesn't really argue for your case, but rather covers a broad specturm, and people complaining of two-man Barons is largely because it's getting into late-game conditions (or they're massively fed, in which case you probably deserve to lose anyways).

Also what Solic said is true. Yes, Baron is proportionately stronger the earlier you get it, but it's also harder to get it early.