A frank and open dialogue about hacking

The game is at a point where you can't really draw a line. But, I'd ban people (depending on severity) if they post an SS containing illegit items and the mod knows for a fact that they are illegit. If the mod does not know for a fact the the items in the SS are illegit, that's what reports are for, and a bit of merit can be involved (i.e. if we had a pomegranate system, it can help in a manner like that).

If someone posts a picture of their character containing a few duped scrolls (i.e. GMs), that's okay I guess (maybe a warning is required in that case), but if they post a picture with 99 GMs in a stack, I think a temp ban is in order. I think this would be fair and would discourage idiot hackers like Damageclac or whatever from showing off. If a post contains an EE hacked item, a perm ban is in order. If a mod is unsure, it can slide, but that type of system would be better than just disregarding things completely.



Agreed, except that if those non-hackers make it a habit of showing themselves as not having a problem with duping (SS, or reference), they should not necessarily be welcome here with the open arms they are welcomed with now.


Can you name some people here who hack for personal gain that would actually be informative? Me neither.


Yes, it was way overdue. That guy was absolutely useless and unfortunately there was no fixing him.

that multi-quote you pulled made me think you were actually khaini for a moment heh.

in order: what i meant is "where would YOU draw the line of legit, the dominator, the VSS, all i listed are illegit items one way or another, and almost* everyone has come in contact with a variation of them, heck i think 27 attk's are less than 1b in scania atm? it's ridiculous

but think about it, stockpiling, merching, preparing for a new weapon, i wouldn't be surprised if someone had a stack of 20%'s, WS and protects saved for phantom from long ago, which they obtained through merching or other non-duping means.
it would also mean that:
fully scrolled self-made dominator=A-ok
30 protects+WS+a clean dominator=warn/ban

they both produce the same result, your method would be punishing the one who hasn't scrolled yet, i know you want to punish the gloating hackers, but others shouldn't pay because of that

the rules may allow them in, and they should, because the person isn't hacking, nowhere does it say that the community has to welcome them though.

dunno if the people i think hack or not, but a lot of the informative people have connections/knowledge to/of people hacking

agreed.