A frank and open dialogue about hacking

if you want to ban people for possession of "illegal/duped items" where do you draw the line? plus it would require the mods to know everything hacked and whatnot, i'd say that's beyond the call of duty.

The game is at a point where you can't really draw a line. But, I'd ban/infractionate people (depending on severity) if they post an SS containing illegit items and the mod knows for a fact that they are illegit items. If the mod does not know for a fact the the items in the SS are illegit, that's what reports are for, and a bit of merit can be involved (i.e. if we had a pomegranate system, it can help in a manner like that).

If someone posts a picture of their character containing a few duped scrolls (i.e. GMs), that's okay I guess (maybe a warning is required in that case), but if they post a picture with 99 GMs in a stack, I think a temp ban is in order. I think this would be fair and would discourage idiot hackers like Damageclac or whatever from showing off. If a post contains an EE hacked item, a perm ban is in order. If a mod is unsure, it can slide, but that type of system would be better than just disregarding things completely.

ban people who hack, tolerate those who don't, no matter how retarded their choices or how duped their gear is.

Agreed, except that if those non-hackers make it a habit of showing themselves as not having a problem with duping (SS, or reference), they should not necessarily be welcome here with the open arms they are welcomed with now.

as for getting known hackers (for which you have non-SP evidence) banned, i am kinda OK with how the rule is, some people, known hackers or not, can be very useful knowledge-wise, i'd rather see how informative the guy is, which the addition of "banned on outside evidence" would not allow me to.

Can you name some people here who hack for personal gain that would actually be informative? Me neither.

and ooh, damagecalc got banned?

Yes, it was way overdue. That guy was absolutely useless and unfortunately there was no fixing him.