A frank and open dialogue about hacking

the rules as they are seem good enough, going into "hacked items should get you banned" i disagree, there's just too much, there's (with an example):

>2xx enhance items (608 Stonetooths)
>dupe-chaosed items (50 attk warrior overall)
>duped items (89% boss mercedes arrows)
>items made through duping of ingredients (dominator pendants)
>items scrolled with duped scrolls (pretty much everything with WS)
>items scrolled with normally impossibly rare scrolls (27 attk VSS scrolled with 10% for shoe attk)

and i'm sure i'm missing some other combinations.

if you want to ban people for possession of "illegal/duped items" where do you draw the line? plus it would require the mods to know everything hacked and whatnot, i'd say that's beyond the call of duty.

ban people who hack, tolerate those who don't, no matter how retarded their choices or how duped their gear is.

as for getting known hackers (for which you have non-SP evidence) banned, i am kinda OK with how the rule is, some people, known hackers or not, can be very useful knowledge-wise, i'd rather see how informative the guy is, which the addition of "banned on outside evidence" would not allow me to.

my two cents.

and ooh, damagecalc got banned? god, i'm missing all the good stuff here without internet!