2008-11-21, 11:13 PM
FelixTM Wrote:I'm getting your point just fine.
I really want to see these idiots that thought NLs weren't going to be strong. Honestly. I know people can be stupid, but I don't remember people being THAT naive before 4th job came out. Hermits were already one of the most dominant, nearly-untouchable classes before. Anyone with a brain would have been able to realize a buffer to them would only make them god-tier. NLs are strong by themselves, and they're incredible when buffed. The main crap about NLs before 4th came out was a bunch of BAWWWing and BMs/Heroes throwing stupid crap about finally being able to be on the same level of NLs ("I'm not gonna give you SE cause I'm butthurt that Sins have KSed me LOL"). Where the heck were the people that truly thought NLs were going to be weak? Trolling really doesn't count...
Unless I'm missing something in this thread, who here is upset with the Nightwalker job because they think it isn't going to be strong? The vibes I've been getting from this thread's posts are:
A) Unhappy they chose the Assassin class as the base for this Cygnus, rather than Bandit
B) Unhappy that, because they are like Sins, L7/TT is going to end up being the focus of this job
C) Unhappy this Cygnus class isn't as appealing/exciting as the others
D) Unhappy that Poison Sling, well, sucks
Who here has been unhappy thinking they are going to be weak? Heck, most of the posts on the first couple pages only acknowledge the fact that Assassins are so strong that they are hard to top.
I dunno about that...i mean hermits weren't "overpopulated" because of the damage, they're overpopulated because speed is addicting and hermits have plenty of it (and by plenty, i mean fastest traveling speed of anything in the game). If anything in the pre-4th job days (case and point would be EMS and below i suppose) the CBs, DKs, and crusaders were thought to be the strongest. Mages were meh, WKs were underestimated (as are pallys for that matter), and archers were in the middle as well.
FelixTM Wrote:Where the heck were the people that truly thought NLs were going to be weak?
Honestly, i remember everyone saying that they were weak compared to other fourth job increases. I remember senyain saying something about NL increase compared to other jobs a few months ago as well. NL increase on average was a 175% increase in overall power where every other job was 200% minimum or something like that. I'm fuzzy on the numbers, but NLs didn't get that much more powerful. Even to me, NLs weren't going to look that strong when the attack is the exact same thing (with 1 and a half more stars) and they didn't get much else. Obviously i'm not even noting their second highest avoidability rate in the game, the star saving, and the KB skill, all of which cover up a LOT of a hermits weaknesses so the job is FAR from worthless. (same could be said for the DrK class i suppose)
Anyway, in my opinion i'm not disappointed per se but i expected something...different. Every other cygnus class brought something completely new to the table for the classes. Warriors got mobility and much larger range with (arguably) broken damage, archers got a godly transformation skill and dark sight, pirates got the still underrated thunder element and range, and mages got element neutrality. What did thieves get? The already available poison element and a mob skill that does 160% total damage while draining at the same time? Not exactly thrilling compared to the others...