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Do you think they will ever
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LordVader Wrote:Ima get flamed for this post, since every time i mention it on buddylist even i get flamed


Elemental weapons are supposed to level the playing field between bishops and archmages, as previously stated

Bishop's genesis is slightly weaker with amp, but not much.
Bishops however get skeles, which is a +50%, Amp is only +35%
Elemental weapons push archmages slightly over bishops (168% vs 150%)

However, this is where my reasoning for why i think the nerfing for bishops SHOULD come into play

A. Bishops gen is slightly faster. not quite as strong of a reason, but it does help them.
B. Gen is half the cost. Yeah, yeah, someone will tell me to reset amp. I say a mage without amp is lol. Also, you gift me 300k NX to reset it and ill think about it. The other response i usually get is people telling me to stfu and stop being emo over it. neither are very good defenses imo.



I'd also like to point out that this is a glitch (based on other versions remember). Remember the bigfoot glitch? Remember all the f/p that got banned from it? The monster itself was in the data as a non-boss, all the f/p were doing was using a skill that has been in the game since almost the beginning (Brace/Mist).

F/P: Banned.
Bishops: Not Banned.


/flameshield UP


The speed difference is insignifcant. When both are OHKO-ing, there is at least a second or two before monsters respawn, thus the speed different means nothing.

Yeah Gen is half the cost but that's because it's weaker and the skill book for Gen30 is nearly 4x the cost of Blizzard 30 (and like 15x the cost of Meteo30). I lost 600m when I failed Gen30 twice, and 300m per book was a bargain. That's already a lot more than what Arch Mages spend due to the double MP cost.

Arch Mages and their elemental wands can easily hit over 90k on any neutral monster on the game. Bishops only have better damage at skeles. However, Skelegons are not end-game training grounds. I've heard that OHKO-ing Newties is faster than Skeles, and Arch Mages are very capable of OHKO-ing Jr. Newties as early as level 14x. Once we get Dukus, Arch Mages will be training a lot faster than Bishops.

Adding Holy reduction doesn't do anything for Arch Mages. The price isn't going to plunge like everyone thinks it will. These weapons give Arch Mages over 50 levels worth of power. They're end-game weapons without a doubt, thus they're not going to be dirt cheap either way. Rarity? These weapons are surprisingly common for how broken they are. Even Doomsday Staves are rarer.


As for Bigfoot, that's still debatable. It's quite obvious that it wasn't intended to be abused like that. And guess what? A lot of Bishops got banned, when Bigfoot glitchers were banned, for selling leech.
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Do you think they will ever - by DaFrknPope - 2008-11-10, 12:08 PM
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