2012-04-21, 04:46 PM
MasPan Wrote:Couldn't really put a mage bottom, they have a hard enough time when an AD decides to go mid, let alone dealing with that + a support. Bruisers that normally top would probably be helpless to do much without a gank. Another ranged AD would lose to trades. I think the best bet would be to throw someone in there that's bulky enough to shrug off a few pokes but still has a bit of range to get some CS.
There's a couple of champs that come to mind when you mention "bulky" and "still has a bit of range to get some CS". The best one would be Galio. He will go oom really fast without a Chalice though. All the other alternatives are even worse.
The reason why I mention putting a mage bot lane is because untargeted abilities typically have a longer range than a ranged champion's auto-attack. Yes, even Kog'Maw with W on still has to worry about getting gibbed by random spells flying through the air. The point here is that it would be harder to completely zone a caster champ, because they have an obnoxiously long range. Some AD carries do give some caster champs a hard time (notably Caitlyn and Kog'Maw), but it really depends on the matchup.
Quote:As for the invasion, I was referring to one person killing own blue, then immediately moving into enemy jungle to take enemy red before the enemy jungler can get there. Or red/blue if enemy starts red. The other jungler could still be clearing own jungle.
There's a strat I like to run when I do jungle Fizz. I tell my teammates to do as much damage as possible to the wolves and blue buff camp without actually killing them, then I scoop up all the kills for enough exp for level 2. If done properly, my teammates will still have enough time to return to lanes without losing exp, and I don't have to blow Smite. With level 2, I can use Playful to hop the wall over Baron/Dragon cave (alternatively you could Flash), which significantly decreases travel time, and I can drag their Lizard to some strange place before their jungler reaches Lizard. Whether I can successfully take Lizard before they find out about the ruse is a tricky issue. Honestly, the timing can't really be done much better than this, and if the second person were to be involved in this, they'd mind as well start at Lizard rather than be at blue buff.