2012-03-11, 12:38 AM
@Eos said it perfectly, with a phenomenal visual for those still judging. Was the method of achieving max EXP/hr gain the most technically challenging in all of video game history for AMs back in 2009 or before? God no, and anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. But Eos eloquently stated the other very real elements of that type of grinding that made it a true challenge, elements completely beyond the extremely narrowed focus of "technical challenge," such as financially supporting the endeavor, reacting to real-time environmental changes like other people/ksers/hackers coming into your map, figuring out how to perfectly maximize your EXP/hr output. I wish I had the sheets of paper I used to do my EXP/hr calculations on so I could upload them for you all to see. I filled pages of computer paper with tiny handwritten scribbles using Speed Pills as 10 minute timers and a calculator to incessantly ensure I was on track.
Look, I could say a bunch more, but Eos summed it up pretty well. All I'll say is to fully pass some semblance reasonable judgment on another player's experiences, you need to consider every facet of that experience and the relative difficult associated with each - or, as Eos said, "have accomplished the same thing under equal or worse conditions."
I'm honestly sympathetic and sorry for you. I'm not trying to sit behind my computer and demean your life, and I really hope you're not taking it that way. I made the comments I did because I don't want others going down the same, self-destructive path I did, and seeing your current status as such breaks my heart.
I never said I had it harder than you; in fact, in the first sentence of the last paragraph of my post you quoted I explicitly acknowledged you had a more difficult experience than I did. I think I knew you back in the day, along with a number of other high level Paladins in Khaini, and I respect you guys because you did have it harder than us, and did constantly experience the same "LOLPALLY" "LOLFP" "LOLIL" pomegranate we did. All I'm trying to argue, like Eos, is that just because, for a limited time, we had it easier than other classes in one very specific aspect of grinding, doesn't mean the overall effort in reaching Lv. 200 was a piece of cake.
Finally, @Andross explained the game very well with regards to the community and various indirect filters. It's difficult to approach the community from that perspective now if you didn't experience it back then (rough time frame, again, of 2006-08/09), because those filters associated with leveling no longer exist.
Look, I could say a bunch more, but Eos summed it up pretty well. All I'll say is to fully pass some semblance reasonable judgment on another player's experiences, you need to consider every facet of that experience and the relative difficult associated with each - or, as Eos said, "have accomplished the same thing under equal or worse conditions."
Dark Link Wrote:Like I'm any better? I almost flunked Junior and Senior year of High School. I flat out bombed 3 years of college as well.
You believe you have/had it bad? You clearly don't know what I've been through these past 6 years...
You know what I am right now? A jobless college drop out. Am I looking for sympathy? Hell no, it's my fault I've gone down this path and it's my job to fix it.
I was in my mid 180s on my Paladin when Big Bang hit. If I gave two pomegranates about leveling back then, which I never did and I still don't now, I could have hit 200 long ago, yet I didn't, but that doesn't suddenly make my level 200 worth jack pomegranate just because you had it "Harder" with your Meteor spam, which is laughable at best.
I'm honestly sympathetic and sorry for you. I'm not trying to sit behind my computer and demean your life, and I really hope you're not taking it that way. I made the comments I did because I don't want others going down the same, self-destructive path I did, and seeing your current status as such breaks my heart.
I never said I had it harder than you; in fact, in the first sentence of the last paragraph of my post you quoted I explicitly acknowledged you had a more difficult experience than I did. I think I knew you back in the day, along with a number of other high level Paladins in Khaini, and I respect you guys because you did have it harder than us, and did constantly experience the same "LOLPALLY" "LOLFP" "LOLIL" pomegranate we did. All I'm trying to argue, like Eos, is that just because, for a limited time, we had it easier than other classes in one very specific aspect of grinding, doesn't mean the overall effort in reaching Lv. 200 was a piece of cake.
Finally, @Andross explained the game very well with regards to the community and various indirect filters. It's difficult to approach the community from that perspective now if you didn't experience it back then (rough time frame, again, of 2006-08/09), because those filters associated with leveling no longer exist.