Religions of Southperry

I think the main issue for theists isn't the lack of morality, but the lack of a moral code or standard. Of course, I completely disagree with their reasoning, but that would take far too long for me to cover.

Yeah, there is no such thing as absolute/universal morality. Every person, whether theist or atheist, religious or irreligious, agnostic or anything, make their own individual, subjective moral code. There is no universal code for morality, not within religion or without it.

Even within a single religion you will find individuals who disagree with parts of the moral code it stands for. For example, there are countless dozens of rules listed in the Christian bible which are simply ignored today by everyone. Because they're patently absurd. Things about slavery or child abuse or eating meat or which fabrics are acceptable to wear together. There are other things which some Christians latch onto and others ignore, like, for example, "homosexuality is an abomination." They're selective of the apparent "moral standard" that the book reports to them, as they should be.

And even outside of religious code, there is still no universal truth for ethics. Killing is wrong, right? What if it's an accident? What if it's to protect yourself? What if it's to protect someone else? What if it's to protect your property? Someone else's property? What if you kill an animal for food? For sport? What about capital punishment? Where is the line drawn for what killing is acceptable? Stealing is wrong, right? What if the owner came into possession of something fraudulently and stealing from them is the only way to get it back? What if you are starving and must steal food to survive? What if someone else is starving and you steal to help them? What about the government seizing assets of persons for various reasons? Where is the line drawn for what stealing is acceptable? Taking away someone's liberty is wrong, right? What if it's done to protect your life, liberty, or property? What about the government taking away the liberty of criminals who are convicted of crimes? How much liberty need be taken away in those cases?

And that's not even touching religious conceptions of "morality", like fundamentalist Christians believing homosexuality between consenting partners is wrong, Orthodox Jews going to extreme lengths to "keep the sabbath", Muslims requiring women to cover their hair and face.