2012-01-14, 07:53 PM
1. First of all with thirteen players, I was assuming that it would take seven to secure a lynch. Can a moderator confirm if this is how the game is going to be played or someone who has checked in with a moderator earlier today? Knowing this information would be helpful.
2. I noticed that z0mgc00k13 "will not wake" which I assumed meant he was killed the prior night. When I re-read though I realized that this might not be the case as Derosis stated, "Poor thing won't be able to do a damn thing today." That means that we have a role that basically takes people out from the day-phase and I'm assuming makes them unable to participate, vote, or scumhunt. Also seeing how this role didn't need a shop in order to use this ability, I'm leaning towards this role being more of an indie/mafia role than a town role at the moment. I think this information would also be helpful in the future.
With respect to the points raised in [2], the "Grease" ability might have caused z0mgc00k13 to be unable to participate for the day. However if that were the case, then we have some sort of privileged shop role or a millionaire role perhaps that has special/early access to the shop. I don't see the benefit of knocking someone out on the first day. Hell, I don't see the benefit of buying something so early on and using it on another player without having any reasons / purposes for doing so. This seems like more of a player elimination tactic than a rational use of resources that I would expect from a townie. So even if the ability is something that can be bought/used by town, I don't think that the ability N1 was used by someone aligned with town, unless they were being incredibly reckless.
There are some other things that are troubling me, such as what if the mafia are able to access the shop, buy Greese, knock out townies and then proceed with forcing the vote around mid to late game. That means that we need to prioritize lynches early this game, otherwise end-game is just going to be one-sided and extremely gruesome. There are some other effects of "Grease" that haven't been covered.
Vote: z0mgc00k13
@mod: requesting a vote count.
3. I would like people to give some reads on my discussion with ChaoticCJ. There isn't going to be a lot of content and I don't think a lynch will formulate. But at the very least I would like people to weigh in on this read within the next hour or so if they are available. I'll out some more of my own thoughts at the end of the day. But for now my vote remains.
2. I noticed that z0mgc00k13 "will not wake" which I assumed meant he was killed the prior night. When I re-read though I realized that this might not be the case as Derosis stated, "Poor thing won't be able to do a damn thing today." That means that we have a role that basically takes people out from the day-phase and I'm assuming makes them unable to participate, vote, or scumhunt. Also seeing how this role didn't need a shop in order to use this ability, I'm leaning towards this role being more of an indie/mafia role than a town role at the moment. I think this information would also be helpful in the future.
With respect to the points raised in [2], the "Grease" ability might have caused z0mgc00k13 to be unable to participate for the day. However if that were the case, then we have some sort of privileged shop role or a millionaire role perhaps that has special/early access to the shop. I don't see the benefit of knocking someone out on the first day. Hell, I don't see the benefit of buying something so early on and using it on another player without having any reasons / purposes for doing so. This seems like more of a player elimination tactic than a rational use of resources that I would expect from a townie. So even if the ability is something that can be bought/used by town, I don't think that the ability N1 was used by someone aligned with town, unless they were being incredibly reckless.
There are some other things that are troubling me, such as what if the mafia are able to access the shop, buy Greese, knock out townies and then proceed with forcing the vote around mid to late game. That means that we need to prioritize lynches early this game, otherwise end-game is just going to be one-sided and extremely gruesome. There are some other effects of "Grease" that haven't been covered.
Vote: z0mgc00k13
@mod: requesting a vote count.
3. I would like people to give some reads on my discussion with ChaoticCJ. There isn't going to be a lot of content and I don't think a lynch will formulate. But at the very least I would like people to weigh in on this read within the next hour or so if they are available. I'll out some more of my own thoughts at the end of the day. But for now my vote remains.