Legit or no? - Fighting glitched bosses.

And the OP in statement form would be:
Bosses that do nothing are glitched and therefore anyone who fights them are illegit.

Get it? If people don't consider krexel to be glitched because him doing nothing is "intended", and no one would care either way because the rewards are paltry (just like gunboss), and nexon refuses to say anything about it (just like gunboss), then it's a gray area that the player cannot bear the blame for, because bosses that do nothing exist regardless of glitches.[/QUOTE]
You misinterpreted something.
Shocking.
What you may have wanted to say and what you actually said were two entirely different things.

Back to the actual discussion:
Players are still guilty of their actions. That's undebateable but, fortunately, not the question of this thread.
The question is whether or not that action is, in fact, morally grey (or either extreme).

Also, I can't think of a single boss which, out of intention, did or does nothing.
The reason for their inaction would always be the result of a glitch, so that last statement is just plain dumb.

But I will write you down in the "moral relativist" column.

I intentionally stretched the definition of a glitch because I'm challenging the concept a lot of people seem to have of what a glitch is and why it's bad.

Which just doubles my confusion as you were responding to Sarah and Sarah didn't even present a concept of what a glitch is.
Nexon's intent, yes, but not what a glitch is.

I called exp:hp ratios in the world tour areas glitches because they detract from the obvious design intent of the developers: to balance and curve exp across all levels training areas. In reality they merely forgot to update them, but in a world where people go around saying how dare you act against Nexon's intent, I feel it's important to point out what a stupid brightline it is they're drawing between acceptable and not. Nexon's intent means absolutely, positively nothing - either in the practice of playing this game, or in any higher sense of how things "should be."

You actually present a very good point about Nexon's intent.

The thing that example that comes to mind when examining designer intent in a game is Smash Bros. Melee.
(While I never mastered them,) these games 'featured' several advanced tactics that are an absolute must for anyone on the competitive level.
Thing is, the most prominent advanced tactics are the result of exploiting certain nuances of the physics engine.

However, neither the Smash Bros scenario or the NLC/World Tour monsters were the result of a glitch since, in both scenarios, the code was working precisely as it was meant to work.

In sarcasm, he has a point.

A glitch is something that the game designer did incorrectly. A glitch is something that potentially affects all players. A glitch is not a way for the high minded to find out who is and is not worthy of their definition of legitimacy. It's a stupid mistake developers are supposed to fix. Developers, not Nexon apparently.

My point is, do not complain at people who will beat a glitched boss to death repeatedly and sell the spoils. I greatly prefer that conduct to sitting in FM ripping off people or buying NX to sell for mesos and supporting Nexon's largesse. It's Nexon's fault the boss is glitched, and it stands in the way of enjoying the content in a balanced and yes perhaps intended way.

Not sure how this segment arose from Takebacker's post, but aaaaaaaaaanyway...

I don't know where people are getting this idea that I'm complaining about people beating these bosses or even condemning it.
I don't give a damn about defining people as "legit" or "illegit"; I only use those terms because they're part of the jargon used by players of Maplestory.

I've already made it clear that I fought these bosses myself since they've become glitched, and, if it helps to clarify my position, I fought Zakum countless times and Horntail once while auto-aggro was broken.

The purpose of this thread was to see how people rationalize whether they see certain actions in Maplestory as either right* or wrong**.


* - may read as "legit"
** - may read as "illegit"