I only read this post a few mintues ago so I don't know what might have changed or what will change with the Cygnus AP system or skill data, but one thing for sure is that people are overrating the class.
Again I'm only going from what the first post says and the 6 AP every level up from 1 to 119 (I'm aware it's changed now but I will just use this for my example).
Normal warrior can have 999 str, with maple hero +99 and equips maybe +90, so about 1188 str.
Soul Warrior is ... 13 base + 119 * 6 AP = 727 str. (There's a nerf they only get 5 AP every level past 70 now? So it wouldn't even be that high anymore.) Assuming job changes don't give you bonus AP like our current 3rd and 4th job changes. Soul Warrior will be DEPENDENT on other 4th jobs for Maple Hero, which is kind of a liability, but not much so. Let's give it to them as a freebie. So 727 + 72. And say this warrior can use the same equips as our current Heros and Paladins. So equip is the same, +90 str. 889 str.
I don't know if Blessing of the Sprite stacks with atk pots, but if it did, Soul Warrior gets potentially 8 more atk. But let's assume it didn't stack. So we neglect this.
The STR ratio is 1188/889 which means Hero and Pally are 1.336x stronger atm.
Skill comparison... lets just do the Hero side, I don't want to bother with Paladins lol.
Combo is 1.9, Brandish is 2.6, and 2 hits. A number we've all seen many times during all the number crunching in the past, 988%.
Soul Warrior combos are the same, just reversed right? So 1.9. Brandish is only 2.4 now, still 2 hits, and Soul Charge is 1.4. 1276.8%.
1276.8/988 = Soul Warrior is 1.292x stronger with skills.
1.336 and 1.292 means Heros still have better damage. Keep in mind Soul Warrior damage is with Maple Hero, a skill they do not have on their own. Also keep in mind that in addition to that, Heros get Stance, Achilles, and Guardian. (And the useless awakening.) Oh. And RUSH?? lol. Though maybe that doesn't matter cause if the EXP table for Cygnus is the same as regular, you can hit 120 extremely quickly, even without Rush. At least Cygnus gets that running skill for movement, but it doesn't push mobs. Last thing to keep in mind, if your Hero has a Lunch Box, then yeah. Lmao. Though knowing Maple, eventually there will be a Lunch Box equivalent weapon for the Soul Warrior to use, maybe.
So yea, they don't outdamage and lack some good defensive skills (mainly Stance, Achilles and Guardian a plus - although I might be overrating Stance since it is only required for Horntail, no other bosses are small platform based). What I will say though, is that if you are assessing PURE OFFENSIVE, then doing damage CLOSE TO a 200 Hero at level 120 is pretty broken. Especially if they share the same EXP table. That's the difference between 1 month and 2 years. I haven't heard about a new EXP table implemented, still waiting on that one.
In a nutshell things are bound to change so any speculation of the class is moot, but if anyone is still thinking these classes are good, well, yeah. I got you there. The only thing that really happens is it takes less time to get stronger and you don't need to buy any skill books. (That sure was annoying, wasn't it? How much is level 30 Brandish now?) I think they are probably working on the process of nerfing the class further also. In essence you get stronger faster, but you will still not be as strong. Unless you're a Paladin, then Cygnus probably owns you. Dark Knights is situational, if you can't use Berserk you'll get owned, if you can... that I haven't bothered checking. But guess what, Cygnus has no Hyper Body!
Sorry if someone already pointed out all these arguments I had before, there's 9 pages of this thread to read D: But yeah. Looks cool, looks fun, but won't be replacing our current warriors except Paladins. Until neutral res comes in.
Everything aside, I'm still interested in making the class for kicks.
Eagerly awaiting tomorrow's news though.
Again I'm only going from what the first post says and the 6 AP every level up from 1 to 119 (I'm aware it's changed now but I will just use this for my example).
Normal warrior can have 999 str, with maple hero +99 and equips maybe +90, so about 1188 str.
Soul Warrior is ... 13 base + 119 * 6 AP = 727 str. (There's a nerf they only get 5 AP every level past 70 now? So it wouldn't even be that high anymore.) Assuming job changes don't give you bonus AP like our current 3rd and 4th job changes. Soul Warrior will be DEPENDENT on other 4th jobs for Maple Hero, which is kind of a liability, but not much so. Let's give it to them as a freebie. So 727 + 72. And say this warrior can use the same equips as our current Heros and Paladins. So equip is the same, +90 str. 889 str.
I don't know if Blessing of the Sprite stacks with atk pots, but if it did, Soul Warrior gets potentially 8 more atk. But let's assume it didn't stack. So we neglect this.
The STR ratio is 1188/889 which means Hero and Pally are 1.336x stronger atm.
Skill comparison... lets just do the Hero side, I don't want to bother with Paladins lol.
Combo is 1.9, Brandish is 2.6, and 2 hits. A number we've all seen many times during all the number crunching in the past, 988%.
Soul Warrior combos are the same, just reversed right? So 1.9. Brandish is only 2.4 now, still 2 hits, and Soul Charge is 1.4. 1276.8%.
1276.8/988 = Soul Warrior is 1.292x stronger with skills.
1.336 and 1.292 means Heros still have better damage. Keep in mind Soul Warrior damage is with Maple Hero, a skill they do not have on their own. Also keep in mind that in addition to that, Heros get Stance, Achilles, and Guardian. (And the useless awakening.) Oh. And RUSH?? lol. Though maybe that doesn't matter cause if the EXP table for Cygnus is the same as regular, you can hit 120 extremely quickly, even without Rush. At least Cygnus gets that running skill for movement, but it doesn't push mobs. Last thing to keep in mind, if your Hero has a Lunch Box, then yeah. Lmao. Though knowing Maple, eventually there will be a Lunch Box equivalent weapon for the Soul Warrior to use, maybe.
So yea, they don't outdamage and lack some good defensive skills (mainly Stance, Achilles and Guardian a plus - although I might be overrating Stance since it is only required for Horntail, no other bosses are small platform based). What I will say though, is that if you are assessing PURE OFFENSIVE, then doing damage CLOSE TO a 200 Hero at level 120 is pretty broken. Especially if they share the same EXP table. That's the difference between 1 month and 2 years. I haven't heard about a new EXP table implemented, still waiting on that one.
In a nutshell things are bound to change so any speculation of the class is moot, but if anyone is still thinking these classes are good, well, yeah. I got you there. The only thing that really happens is it takes less time to get stronger and you don't need to buy any skill books. (That sure was annoying, wasn't it? How much is level 30 Brandish now?) I think they are probably working on the process of nerfing the class further also. In essence you get stronger faster, but you will still not be as strong. Unless you're a Paladin, then Cygnus probably owns you. Dark Knights is situational, if you can't use Berserk you'll get owned, if you can... that I haven't bothered checking. But guess what, Cygnus has no Hyper Body!
Sorry if someone already pointed out all these arguments I had before, there's 9 pages of this thread to read D: But yeah. Looks cool, looks fun, but won't be replacing our current warriors except Paladins. Until neutral res comes in.
Everything aside, I'm still interested in making the class for kicks.
Eagerly awaiting tomorrow's news though.