2011-10-28, 09:04 AM
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:To be able to seal something, you have to be at least on par in terms of strength against that individual. It has to be a standstill mostly because if it wasn't; you would either win by defeating him or the enemy wins by defeating you pretty much bypassing the need for a sealing spell or technique. I suppose you could also go from on the verge of defeat and blindside the enemy into a seal to win.
So since Legend mages helped seal the black mage, it sounds like you're implying that Adventurer mages (AMs in particular) wouldn't/shouldn't be able to. Again, just because one type of class (legend) 'officially' did this does not mean the other cannot, and doesn't mean the other can't do it better.
"you have to be at least on par in terms of strength against that individual" - Really? What about the collective army battle against 1, which is how the Black Mage was sealed for sure? *Imagines legend weapon attack classes doing most of the DPM in that fight lol* Throw your Black Mage argument out the window please. It doesn't prove anything at all.
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:I actually have seen no threads of AM's being OPed on basil that could be for a varying degree of reasons which would be quite obvious when explained to you. On to the ageism factor; this is surely wrong. How old are you? If you are younger then I am I can turn this onto you pretty quickly and prove why it shouldn't even be a reason on your argument. I'll explain it though, in case you are older. Giving benefits to a section of classes just because of their age, is basically segregation while not providing benefits to other classes. Cygnus have something similar like this, but it's quite alright since it affects all your classes equally when it's finally active except for the whole UA which doesn't seem worthwhile IMO. So in conclusion, there should definitely be nothing given to Advs that could potentially make them stronger intentionally just because they're an older classwhile not doing the same for the other classes. I wouldn't give an 90 year old man(with possibly alzheimer's or delirium) all of USA's nukes to make him stronger, why would you give an older class all these buffs to make them stronger?
But Evans are officially "older" than AMs according to the story-based argument you came up with. See how your argument contradicts itself?
Bringing up the 90 year old man argument is also out-of-the-blue here. That man, even if he has crippling diseases, can still possibly be the only person who can operate USA's nukes effectively due to experience and he could've built the damn things himself. A more realistic scenario that can be attributed to your argument is a worker with 5 years (AMs) experience getting less seniority/health benefits/salary/job security than another worker doing the same exact job with the same exact credentials but only with 2-3 years (Evans) experience. How would this be fair? It wouldn't be.
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:Did I say get rid of ADV classes? No. I just didn't think it was worthwhile to have them stronger then Legends is all. Evan's in top of supports? What's this Bishop-type class I keep hearing about then? The one with Holy Symbol and Adv BlessO.o
If Legends were only released and destined to be weaker then ADV, there would be no point in releasing; likewise for The Resistance and Gaiden classes since ADV's should be stronger in your opinion. How fun would this game be with only 3-5 characters depending on your view of the original adventurers. I can pretty much believe Maplestory wouldn't be where it's at now if they kept adventurers only.
Where did I imply that you wanted to get rid of ADV classes? Nowhere. Also, it was implied by me that bishops are out of this argument (I'm talking about AMs vs. Evans here only). Let me re-state this clearly: Evans on top of AMs in 1v1+mobbing+support = blasphemy.
Matter of fact I'm all for class balance. Making Evans and AMs equal in terms of DPM would be awesome imo. But if one has to be slightly higher-damaged than the other, it makes more sense for it to be AMs due to my reasons stated above. And don't get me started on support skills. lol