mercedez can do me sideways.

Hate to be an ass.
Every person I've seen with a Hero's Glove has been a mercedes.

You said that as a contradictory to the Takebacker's

"Some players with the heroes glove are not Mercedes." (or that can obtain the heroes gloves doesn't really matter what term you use here its still wrong)

Meaning you believe the opposite to be true, or else you had no reason to post, because Takebacker was still correct and your statement was unneeded.

If nothing else learn hot to make a useful contribution, no point repeating what's just been said.

I'm assuming you are going to argue that that's not what you meant, but your 2 or 3 posts after that say otherwise as you continue to provide support for All players that can get the heroes glove are Mecedes(and will always be). I don't think you took a logic class or else you'd realize changing the words does nothing, if your form is wrong every combination in the same form is also wrong no matter what, which is why I included the elephants example, but you ignored that.