Post Jump (Ascension) Heroes

so since AFA doesnt charge orbs then that means if ur AFA is 0 regular FA still wont charge any?

AFA is passive and boosts FA, so chances are it doesn't work either. 20% less proc rate makes it too easy to lose Coma as a spammable attack. You would have a 60% chance to lose orbs, 8% chance to break even, and 32% chance to gain. It's too hard to sustain Coma without AFA. Since AFA doesn't charge orbs, you'll more or less be using Brandish + Coma or IS + Coma for mobs and plain IS (with Panic) for bosses.