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Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart
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LargestRoad Wrote:The extra coin would really only allow you to replace a savage blow with a meso explosion 30 boomerang steps, 14 savage blows, and 15 meso explosions later; I don't think that would help DPS by more than 0.5% or so, but it'll only take me a couple seconds to change it if you really want me to.

I agree that it would not help much, but the part I don't understand is why not even consider it for sake of completion? Something like that would like rounding down SB from 112.5% to 112% (or any other skill for any class) in terms of its DPS effect, which I agree is not much.


Quote:The reason only magic crash affects cancels is that magic crash is much simplier to quantify as a straight x1/3 of the effects of cancels. Things like magic crash manipulating, DoT before cancels, and savage blow coin collecting are much more difficult to quantify. Realistically, it's possible for you to manipulate magic crashes such that the boss will almost never weapon cancel (i.e. at zakum, only crashing when magic cancel ends or after 15 seconds have passed after weapon cancel ends), but the assumption is that crashes are always used immediately when cooldown ends.

There is a slight difference among those though. The magic crash manipulating and DoT before cancel must include anticipation of the upcoming WDEF; the same is not the case for building up coins. Once the WDEF goes up, that is when the action actually occurs (not before), and it can make a pretty big difference. Take an example 30 second duration: during this time period 41 2/3 SBs can be used to build up 400 coins, which later results in 26 2/3 extra MEs. It would get a little hairy in trying to implement the extra MEs into the combination, so I will try to derive something for you myself.

Quote:5x BS + 3x Assaulter + 2x ME simply comes from 5 boomerang steps and 3 assaulters generating enough coins for 2 meso explosions on average. Yeah, there are two coins left over from that for the same reason as above. Does spamming assaulter always do more damage than that when used over boomerang step and savage blow? The highest defense boss in the game so far only has 70% PDRate, so there's not much point in looking into anything higher than that.

I sort of thought that is where you were going with that combination. Shadowers are very odd because the PDR level determines what skill combination you should use. As it gets higher and higher, you move from a combination of SB, BS, and ME, to some combination of assaulter with BS and ME (such as yours), then somehow assaulter +ME, then to strictly assaulter!

I have been considering to develop a sort of chart with various levels of PDR which would give a corresponding %/sec output for the various combinations. Plus, I kinda have been giving you hard time about this class when you have done a great job overall (and I'm sure the community appreciates your effort), so it is only right for me to pull some weight myself, if you will. My summer semester just ended today so I will begin working on this tomorrow, time permitting.
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Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by FenixR - 2011-06-22, 04:20 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-06-22, 04:55 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by JoeTang - 2011-06-23, 04:40 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Stereo - 2011-06-23, 05:09 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by White - 2011-06-23, 08:28 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by sufian - 2011-06-23, 09:04 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by White - 2011-06-23, 04:53 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by orik - 2011-07-02, 11:17 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by lorx - 2011-07-08, 09:22 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-08, 10:12 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-07-18, 11:37 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Link - 2011-07-18, 11:54 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-18, 06:26 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-18, 07:58 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-07-18, 08:38 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-19, 06:16 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by dontlisten - 2011-08-07, 09:45 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by dontlisten - 2011-08-07, 10:30 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-08, 12:30 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-08, 08:38 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-08-08, 08:58 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-08, 01:45 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by dontlisten - 2011-08-08, 03:23 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-08, 04:20 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-08, 07:47 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-09, 06:06 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-08-10, 11:34 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-10, 11:59 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-11, 04:35 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by lorx - 2011-08-12, 10:19 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by lorx - 2011-08-13, 10:09 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-16, 02:45 AM

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