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Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart
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iFrancisco Wrote:1) It depends on how you define negligible, but it nonetheless is underestimating the output. The additional math is not complex for someone such as yourself.
2) Ah, I see how that cell works now, thanks.
3) This one I am a little confused by because of Heros (in regards to the DPS => 0 damage argument). As the duration of of WDEF gets higher and higher (with a static CD), their damage gets better in comparison to other physical based classes. My assumption here is that magic crash has come into play with the the weapon cancel/reflect. If that can be considered for Heroes, why can't the same be done for another class? Again though, maybe I am seeing something that isn't true :f6:

In regards to your two sequences, I really don't understand where your 5x BS + 3x Assaulter + 2x ME is even coming from (I have never heard of such an idea from any Shadower, and that says a lot); it is certainly interesting, but I would like to understand the purpose behind it. If a monster has a 99% PDR, why is BS or ME even being used instead of just spamming assaulter?

I can take this to PMs if you prefer. I just want to understand some of the logic behind the numbers.

The extra coin would really only allow you to replace a savage blow with a meso explosion 30 boomerang steps, 14 savage blows, and 15 meso explosions later; I don't think that would help DPS by more than 0.5% or so, but it'll only take me a couple seconds to change it if you really want me to.

The reason only magic crash affects cancels is that magic crash is much simplier to quantify as a straight x1/3 of the effects of cancels. Things like magic crash manipulating, DoT before cancels, and savage blow coin collecting are much more difficult to quantify. Realistically, it's possible for you to manipulate magic crashes such that the boss will almost never weapon cancel (i.e. at zakum, only crashing when magic cancel ends or after 15 seconds have passed after weapon cancel ends), but the assumption is that crashes are always used immediately when cooldown ends.

5x BS + 3x Assaulter + 2x ME simply comes from 5 boomerang steps and 3 assaulters generating enough coins for 2 meso explosions on average. Yeah, there are two coins left over from that for the same reason as above. Does spamming assaulter always do more damage than that when used over boomerang step and savage blow? The highest defense boss in the game so far only has 70% PDRate, so there's not much point in looking into anything higher than that.

Devil Wrote:- I dont have SP's in sat safety atm, but a -do- have max summon mastery, and the damage did increase by 1.5x. I'll try to find a mech in Khaini who has points into it.
- What evidence do you have that it doesn't increase the damage?
- The attack speeds for Canon and Siege are for 95% correct at least, I'll try to post an audiograph where you can count the blips of both of them. Smile

Previously, satellite safety was glitched to not boost satellite damage, but after looking into it, it seems as though the glitch was fixed in v.99 according to this notice. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else though, so hopefully Nexon didn't make another mistake.Thanks for helping me catch that! However, now I need to know whether it stacks additively or multiplicatively.

Locked Wrote:I don't think LargestRoad has ever played a Shadower.
Just my honest opinion lol

No, I have never played a shadower seriously nor have I played 90% of 4th job classes seriously. That's why I've stated that this is a work in progress, not a finished product, and why I'm asking for input and corrections.

dragonknight Wrote:Is there something wrong with the Hero's critical calculations? All other classes have multipliers of less than 1.5 but heros have 2.2 for their critical multiplier. I thought hero's were one of those classes that don't get a huge change in damage from critical boosts. Or did that change after bigbang/chaos patch?

Advanced combo attack stacks additively with criticals, so it built into those rows for simplicity and cleaner formatting.
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Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by FenixR - 2011-06-22, 04:20 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-06-22, 04:55 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by JoeTang - 2011-06-23, 04:40 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Stereo - 2011-06-23, 05:09 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by White - 2011-06-23, 08:28 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by sufian - 2011-06-23, 09:04 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by White - 2011-06-23, 04:53 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by orik - 2011-07-02, 11:17 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by lorx - 2011-07-08, 09:22 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-08, 10:12 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-07-18, 11:37 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Link - 2011-07-18, 11:54 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-18, 06:26 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-18, 07:58 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-07-18, 08:38 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-07-19, 06:16 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by dontlisten - 2011-08-07, 09:45 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by dontlisten - 2011-08-07, 10:30 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-08, 12:30 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-08, 08:38 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-08-08, 08:58 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-08, 01:45 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by dontlisten - 2011-08-08, 03:23 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-08, 04:20 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-08, 07:47 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-09, 06:06 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Devil - 2011-08-10, 11:34 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by Locked - 2011-08-10, 11:59 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by LargestRoad - 2011-08-11, 03:39 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-11, 04:35 AM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by lorx - 2011-08-12, 10:19 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by lorx - 2011-08-13, 10:09 PM
Customizable Post-Chaos DPS Chart - by iFrancisco - 2011-08-16, 02:45 AM

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