2011-07-19, 03:17 PM
Sarah Wrote:What happened to the results of that Southperry Q&A?
For anyone who actually cares
Donation Related Questions
Obscenity Related Questions
Feature Related Questions
Miscellaneous questions
Donation Related Questions
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Ads are the single best revenue source the site has. Clicking them definitely helps.
Purchasing any items you get from Amazon.com via the Southperry referral link so we get 6% is probably your second best chance to contribute. Even unregistered users/lurkers can do that and no information about you is shared with the site, keeping it anonymous. The only downside is you also can't be rewarded for doing it.
At this time there are no plans for other ways, if you have any ideas suggest them because everything we've considered has failed to get interest.
The biggest problem with finding ways to contribute is that the number of people who actually can/will/want to contribute is so small its more time and effort to create ways than they are ever likely to earn. (see #6)
I'm effectively the only one who can see who's donated how much, so no. That's not a bias they're capable of.
That aside, there's also no one who does any such thing. There have only been 46 donations via the market since it's inception.
35% of those occurred the week of my disaster and another 30% the week the market opened. Keep in mind also that the total raised there was only ~200.
Donations are definitely not a massive source of income. Some people are very generous but as far microtransactions go they're only profitible in huge quantities and that is something we just don't have/get.
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I'd Like to help southperry money wise but I'm not a fan of the current payment options. I click the ads but I'm not even sure that helps, anyways will there be new options to donate to southperry?
Ads are the single best revenue source the site has. Clicking them definitely helps.
Purchasing any items you get from Amazon.com via the Southperry referral link so we get 6% is probably your second best chance to contribute. Even unregistered users/lurkers can do that and no information about you is shared with the site, keeping it anonymous. The only downside is you also can't be rewarded for doing it.
At this time there are no plans for other ways, if you have any ideas suggest them because everything we've considered has failed to get interest.
The biggest problem with finding ways to contribute is that the number of people who actually can/will/want to contribute is so small its more time and effort to create ways than they are ever likely to earn. (see #6)
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Do moderators have any bias by infracting nondonators over donators?
Or is there any rule over that? I don't mean one time $5 donators, I mean consistent donators that really help to keep the site alive.
I'm effectively the only one who can see who's donated how much, so no. That's not a bias they're capable of.
That aside, there's also no one who does any such thing. There have only been 46 donations via the market since it's inception.
35% of those occurred the week of my disaster and another 30% the week the market opened. Keep in mind also that the total raised there was only ~200.
Donations are definitely not a massive source of income. Some people are very generous but as far microtransactions go they're only profitible in huge quantities and that is something we just don't have/get.
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| WeekStart | Bans | Warnings | Infractions | Threads | Posts | Blogs | SocialGroupPosts | KarmaPurchases | MarketTransactions |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010-11-14 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 319 | 6512 | 8 | 1 | 13 | 236 |
| 2010-11-21 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 342 | 6158 | 18 | 12 | 3 | 171 |
| 2010-11-28 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 344 | 6946 | 16 | 9 | 1 | 58 |
| 2010-12-05 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 526 | 9024 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 16 |
| 2010-12-12 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 410 | 6993 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 16 |
| 2010-12-19 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 438 | 6698 | 7 | 3 | 2 | 11 |
| 2010-12-26 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 415 | 5599 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 20 |
| 2011-01-02 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 376 | 5267 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 6 |
| 2011-01-09 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 425 | 6106 | 13 | 2 | 1 | 18 |
| 2011-01-16 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 407 | 6838 | 15 | 4 | 0 | 9 |
| 2011-01-23 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 346 | 5657 | 13 | 0 | 1 | 8 |
| 2011-01-30 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 381 | 5987 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 3 |
| 2011-02-06 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 349 | 5178 | 12 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| 2011-02-13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 292 | 5141 | 13 | 2 | 0 | 4 |
| 2011-02-20 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 427 | 6434 | 18 | 26 | 0 | 2 |
| 2011-02-27 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 329 | 6293 | 13 | 24 | 1 | 8 |
| 2011-03-06 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 383 | 6081 | 13 | 23 | 0 | 3 |
| 2011-03-13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 299 | 5341 | 13 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| 2011-03-20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 305 | 5180 | 4 | 13 | 0 | 3 |
| 2011-03-27 | 1 | 7 | 3 | 301 | 5191 | 11 | 21 | 1 | 4 |
| 2011-04-03 | 0 | 8 | 3 | 284 | 4622 | 12 | 7 | 1 | 4 |
| 2011-04-10 | 0 | 9 | 1 | 278 | 5011 | 11 | 28 | 0 | 2 |
| 2011-04-17 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 294 | 5343 | 18 | 51 | 0 | 0 |
| 2011-04-24 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 308 | 6290 | 12 | 68 | 16 | 87 |
| 2011-05-01 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 309 | 6200 | 16 | 88 | 1 | 1 |
| 2011-05-08 | 2 | 7 | 7 | 301 | 6226 | 11 | 32 | 0 | 14 |
| 2011-05-15 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 269 | 5992 | 15 | 19 | 0 | 15 |
| 2011-05-22 | 0 | 7 | 5 | 258 | 5294 | 10 | 30 | 0 | 14 |
| 2011-05-29 | 3 | 19 | 15 | 285 | 5313 | 10 | 11 | 0 | 8 |
| 2011-06-05 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 250 | 5428 | 8 | 16 | 1 | 3 |
| 2011-06-12 | 3 | 11 | 7 | 285 | 5485 | 6 | 53 | 0 | 5 |
| Total | 35 | 88 | 83 | 10535 | 183828 | 353 | 560 | 46 | 749 |
Obscenity Related Questions
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http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=1#Obscenity
[faq]rr_obscenity[/faq]
Key point being "in any degree of undress, including but not limited to bathing suits, or in a manner that sexualizes or eroticizes them."
If they're not anatomically anthroporphic and not being sexualized or eroticized in any way, including implication.
Sailor Moon's transform scene is normally undressed, but being anatomical would be a violation.
Winnie-The-Pooh is pantsless naturally but not anatomical and would be acceptible providing he's not being sexualized in some way.
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This is a completely serious question, and I swear I'm not pulling your leg.
I'm pretty sure I heard someone say I can't post pictures of shirtless men. Is this true?
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=1#Obscenity
[faq]rr_obscenity[/faq]
Key point being "in any degree of undress, including but not limited to bathing suits, or in a manner that sexualizes or eroticizes them."
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8th:
If an anthropormorphic something or other is normally undressed, is it against the rules to post them at all?
Example:
If they're not anatomically anthroporphic and not being sexualized or eroticized in any way, including implication.
Sailor Moon's transform scene is normally undressed, but being anatomical would be a violation.
Winnie-The-Pooh is pantsless naturally but not anatomical and would be acceptible providing he's not being sexualized in some way.
Feature Related Questions
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If extractions were only available to registered users we'd have less traffic, not more registered users.
The extractions as you say are what lure people in, making them more available makes them a better lure. To grow we have to put our goods out where they can be seen.
Not to be mean but registered users are not particularly valuable, compared to unregistered users. Registration is mostly a convenience for the user, letting them change how they interact with the site, and letting them communicate with each other for the particularly social ones.
The site gets virtually nothing out of you registering here, unless you happen to donate, but we get far more money from ads than donations.
Here's some data for the curious;
Left set is hits, right set is unique IP addresses.
So registered users make up about 20% of traffic but only 10% of unique sources of traffic.
Or another way, registered users are about twice as active as unregistered, but a drop in the bucket.
At best registered users are an incremental credit to the site based on the volume of traffic generated reading their material but most registered users are lurkers, not posters (see chart below).
Which again is 22% of registered users who have posted more than 10 things, ever.
Formulas belong in the Game Mechanics section of the forum.
http://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?f=9037
Calculators for formulas are handled on a case by case basis. Client sided calculators are frowned upon unless they're open source or an interpreted language like python/vbscript/jscript.
For any functional content you want to contribute to the site you should PM the site owner to discuss feasibility, terms, issues and options.
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The site gets most of its traffic when new extractions are available.
Would the amount of registered users go up if it was only for members? Would the traffic go down because of the hassle to sign up? Those 100 guests could become regular members? Just something i always thought of asking.
If extractions were only available to registered users we'd have less traffic, not more registered users.
The extractions as you say are what lure people in, making them more available makes them a better lure. To grow we have to put our goods out where they can be seen.
Not to be mean but registered users are not particularly valuable, compared to unregistered users. Registration is mostly a convenience for the user, letting them change how they interact with the site, and letting them communicate with each other for the particularly social ones.
The site gets virtually nothing out of you registering here, unless you happen to donate, but we get far more money from ads than donations.
Here's some data for the curious;
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| LogDate | UnReg | Reg | Grand Total | % Reg | LogDate | UnReg | Reg | Grand Total | % Reg | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011-05-01 | 55935 | 13997 | 69932 | 20% | 2011-05-01 | 6693 | 809 | 7502 | 11% | |
| 2011-05-02 | 49251 | 15237 | 64488 | 24% | 2011-05-02 | 6025 | 856 | 6881 | 12% | |
| 2011-05-03 | 47438 | 13044 | 60482 | 22% | 2011-05-03 | 5889 | 818 | 6707 | 12% | |
| 2011-05-04 | 54739 | 12590 | 67329 | 19% | 2011-05-04 | 6214 | 846 | 7060 | 12% | |
| 2011-05-05 | 72675 | 13292 | 85967 | 15% | 2011-05-05 | 6109 | 836 | 6945 | 12% | |
| 2011-05-06 | 60191 | 15579 | 75770 | 21% | 2011-05-06 | 5983 | 854 | 6837 | 12% | |
| 2011-05-07 | 43937 | 14115 | 58052 | 24% | 2011-05-07 | 6723 | 827 | 7550 | 11% | |
| 2011-05-08 | 66457 | 16888 | 83345 | 20% | 2011-05-08 | 6820 | 856 | 7676 | 11% | |
| 2011-05-09 | 54892 | 19661 | 74553 | 26% | 2011-05-09 | 5310 | 870 | 6180 | 14% | |
| 2011-05-10 | 50026 | 13476 | 63502 | 21% | 2011-05-10 | 5479 | 825 | 6304 | 13% | |
| 2011-05-11 | 64563 | 13496 | 78059 | 17% | 2011-05-11 | 5620 | 812 | 6432 | 13% | |
| 2011-05-12 | 55316 | 12070 | 67386 | 18% | 2011-05-12 | 5701 | 783 | 6484 | 12% | |
| 2011-05-13 | 46729 | 11682 | 58411 | 20% | 2011-05-13 | 5837 | 792 | 6629 | 12% | |
| 2011-05-14 | 44746 | 11215 | 55961 | 20% | 2011-05-14 | 6651 | 770 | 7421 | 10% | |
| 2011-05-15 | 46027 | 11053 | 57080 | 19% | 2011-05-15 | 7020 | 805 | 7825 | 10% | |
| 2011-05-16 | 51342 | 15082 | 66424 | 23% | 2011-05-16 | 6902 | 866 | 7768 | 11% | |
| 2011-05-17 | 93536 | 16625 | 110161 | 15% | 2011-05-17 | 7063 | 904 | 7967 | 11% | |
| 2011-05-18 | 67051 | 14344 | 81395 | 18% | 2011-05-18 | 7506 | 889 | 8395 | 11% | |
| 2011-05-19 | 68415 | 18578 | 86993 | 21% | 2011-05-19 | 9585 | 904 | 10489 | 9% | |
| 2011-05-20 | 60044 | 15714 | 75758 | 21% | 2011-05-20 | 8036 | 872 | 8908 | 10% | |
| 2011-05-21 | 77108 | 19694 | 96802 | 20% | 2011-05-21 | 8075 | 808 | 8883 | 9% | |
| 2011-05-22 | 93793 | 16440 | 110233 | 15% | 2011-05-22 | 8601 | 772 | 9373 | 8% | |
| 2011-05-23 | 64220 | 17950 | 82170 | 22% | 2011-05-23 | 8003 | 775 | 8778 | 9% | |
| 2011-05-24 | 63172 | 14468 | 77640 | 19% | 2011-05-24 | 7937 | 699 | 8636 | 8% | |
| 2011-05-25 | 76358 | 13083 | 89441 | 15% | 2011-05-25 | 10159 | 549 | 10708 | 5% | |
| Grand Total | 1527961 | 369373 | 1897334 | 19% | Grand Total | 173941 | 20397 | 194338 | 10% |
Left set is hits, right set is unique IP addresses.
So registered users make up about 20% of traffic but only 10% of unique sources of traffic.
Or another way, registered users are about twice as active as unregistered, but a drop in the bucket.
At best registered users are an incremental credit to the site based on the volume of traffic generated reading their material but most registered users are lurkers, not posters (see chart below).
| UnderTen | AboveTen | AboveFifty | AboveHundred | AboveFiveHundred | AboveThousand |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6294 | 874 | 257 | 451 | 109 | 95 |
Which again is 22% of registered users who have posted more than 10 things, ever.
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7th: (the only reason I even posted this one was because maybe we should let users know who to contact for such things?)
Question: I know a mathematical formula which MapleStory-users of Southperry may/will have use for.
I have programmed it and it runs fast (i.e. it will not burn resources) - or I have made the program client-sided.
I do not wish for any credit, though I want the formula to stay on this website only.
Who do I contact, and what is the requirements for formulas (so I do not waste anyone's time), if any?
Formulas belong in the Game Mechanics section of the forum.
http://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?f=9037
Calculators for formulas are handled on a case by case basis. Client sided calculators are frowned upon unless they're open source or an interpreted language like python/vbscript/jscript.
For any functional content you want to contribute to the site you should PM the site owner to discuss feasibility, terms, issues and options.
Miscellaneous questions
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a) They amused Fiel and became part of the local sub-culture. They're effectively inside-jokes.
b) There is no penalty for bypassing them other than looking gormless. Clever users actually know what to type to swear effectively & clearly when they want to.
c) There is no profanity restriction provided you do not flame someone or wander into obscenity. The full [thread=1]list of rules can be viewed here.[/thread]
d) They amused us.
Fiel designed his own system for extractions. It's not a publicly available tool. You can search the internet for public extraction utilities and code but should be wary of potential viruses and worse.
Nexon can not ban you for extracting their file info, they have no way of knowing you've done it. If you try modifying your .wz files you can and most likely will get banned for it. Reading them is perfectly fine.
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a) What's with the word filters?
b) Am I allowed to bypass them?
c) Is cursing allowed in general?
d) Why is there a chinchilla, pineapple, goggles and toast emoticons?
a) They amused Fiel and became part of the local sub-culture. They're effectively inside-jokes.
b) There is no penalty for bypassing them other than looking gormless. Clever users actually know what to type to swear effectively & clearly when they want to.
c) There is no profanity restriction provided you do not flame someone or wander into obscenity. The full [thread=1]list of rules can be viewed here.[/thread]
d) They amused us.
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4th:
What do you use to extract MapleStory wz. files and is there a guide to use it or something?
And will Nexon ban you for this?
Fiel designed his own system for extractions. It's not a publicly available tool. You can search the internet for public extraction utilities and code but should be wary of potential viruses and worse.
Nexon can not ban you for extracting their file info, they have no way of knowing you've done it. If you try modifying your .wz files you can and most likely will get banned for it. Reading them is perfectly fine.
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