7/14/2011 : Kaede, JMS Defeats Empress Cygnus! [Now with video proof!!]

This is why I don't post here much.

You fail to see the relevance. So I guess everyone who plays MH NEVER ONCE touches MS? Or contributes to MS in any way?

I play MH. I've played quite a bit of it since MHFU. I'm rather good at it (funnily enough i'm better than any of my Japanese friends especially on the gunning in tri which has become my favorite part of any of the games) It's not that i can't see the relevance, but that i see how it actually isn't relevant.

You say as if people who play one game can never touch another game.

Uh what?

Things learned from a game like MH can easily assist you in making strategies for this game.

No, not really.

They have what...thirty players there? You want me to believe that there's absolutely no strategy in there at all? People are just mashing buttons and hoping things happen?

I never said anything remotely like this.

That's how most GMS players play, they've said it themselves. Hell, that's how I play MS most of the time.

Not going after serious bosses. The further i get into this the more it seems like you have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not saying that I myself would ever have the ability to do the Empress, but that's not the point.

I'd hope you would. Ability has never been the hard part of maplestory. All of the skill that this game has is pushing the right buttons at the right time when there aren't really any wrong buttons and button mashing will work for most situations. And it isn't the point.

If you get thirty players who know exactly what they are doing, and they formulate a plan to exactly time attacks, exactly time skill uses, to exactly time when to do certain things,

You mean magic crash. It's like the only thing like this. And the timing generally isn't exact either. I suppose not healing when people are zombified or attacking damage reflect also fits under this, but hey i can get that kind of coordination out of randoms for BPQ. You have way too high of a perception on the difficulty level of this stuff.

you can absolutely do better than a group where everyone is just doing their own thing, with no coordination what so ever. That's exactly what they do here. They always do it. They've shown the ability to do it in MH, they can easily do it in MS, where there's significantly less variables to care about.

In maplestory, you can also just spend a bunch of money to be stronger than everyone and beat the pomegranate out of a boss not caring if you die because your money can quite literally bring you back to life. The bossing is a lot more like attack as much as possible than you think it is.

It's not my fault that GMS has a bugged Empress. Hell, for all we know maybe GMS could have beaten JMS in timing, but you also forget...JMS JUST got Empress. It was two days ago. I highly doubt even if Empress wasn't bugged in GMS, they would have done it in a week, let alone one day after it was released.

ok...? I 1. think you're wrong as we (we as in GMS i don't play this game serously anymore) were able to take her to the point where it seems like shes glitched within days and at first thought we were doing something wrong. 2. what does this have to anything i've said or these ridiculous things you insist that i'm saying?

MHFO was simply an example of how the Japanese players can create teamwork beyond what you'd possibly expect or even think was possible.

But it isn't beyond my expectations it's come to be exactly what i expect. The difference is I don't create a pineappleing stereotype out of it. MH isn't even the hardest game i've ever played. I've gotten pretty damn close to mastering several elements of it and spent less time than a lot of people who are worse than me at it. Is it because i'm Japanese? No.

I would never believe half the runs I've seen and participated in myself unless I was there to see them. How is MS any different?

Well for one i've never been surprised by it. For two it has about 2% (made up number) of the game depth (not to mention it's missing an entire dimension of space in comparison to MH). There is no great skill ceiling to aspire to in MS. Money will always make you much stronger than skill. No one can press their attack key so skillfully that they get more damage. It is that simple. This just seems like you have a problem facing reality.

If you have the people, and they can work together in the amount that the Japanese players have shown they can, they can do these kinds of things.

Cool stereotype

It makes no difference on what game it is, because it's still teamwork.

You're just wrong actually.

You guys thought Empress was basically impossible,

No i didn't.

I thought it was impossible to kill a Black Fatalis in 60 seconds.

Still not relevant

But both are quite possible, and both have been proven by Japanese players.

You might have to eat your words here.

And sure, I will agree there IS a possibility that they are hackers, but it's so slim it's not even funny.

Bullpomegranate. You don't believe your own words here and it's obvious. Look one sentence up.

I've never seen a native Japanese player hack. I've never seen any kind of record of it. We see videos and screenshots of Americans, Chinese, and Koreans hacking all the damn time, but I've never seen a Japanese player hack. Ever. And even if you can show me a video or a screenshot of a Japanese player hacking, with absolute certainty that it is a Japanese player, I could show you a hundred more of American/Chinese/Korean hackers for every Japanese hacker you find.

Oh my pineappleing god this pomegranate again, again. I'm not even going to get into this it's just too idiotic. Seriously this insistance is so stupid. I am a little flabbergasted. Stop trying to vindicate yourself with this pomegranate. I already provided a REAL LIFE EXAMPLE (sumo wrestling and the corruption surrounding it, it was kind of a big deal several years ago) of corruption going on protected by typical "Japanese" privacy. Which both before and after it was proven to be happening many Japanese insisted it was impossible. I don't care about what you insist about these things. They are so obvious fallacious that it just makes you look bad.

Hell, people were flaunting their 15+ star gear when that stuff was going on, the GMS markets are FLOODED with duped items and gear, it's not even funny anymore. The likelyhood that these guys are hackers is just so slim, it's barely possible. So I will say that it is possible, but the chances are so unlikely that it'd mind as well not be possible at all.

So pineappleing what? these two things have literally nothing to do with one another. JMS evidently has a booming meso selling market oh ho ho look at me destroying your legitimacy as a player via indirect relation. Wait, no, that isn't how it works. Your insistent belief only makes it easier for you to be taken in. That is all.

Now I am done with this. I'm sick of posting the crap over and over. People will believe whatever they want to believe. If you want to believe they are hackers so that you can say your version is first at killing Empress, do whatever you want. Not like we can stop you, and it's not like it didn't happen for PB (I'm told GMS says they did it first all the time, but it was JMS).

Seriously this was such a waste of time. You have such an insanely biased notion of anyone who disagrees with you. No matter how much you believe in their legitimacy it will never ever actually contribute to their legitimacy. No matter how reverent you are of some Monster Hunter speed runs, it won't make maple story any deeper of a game. No matter what retarded pomegranate you think that i think if you didn't bother to read a word of or consider at all anything I've even said, you're probably wrong. One thing i can agree with you on is that you've been posting crap over and over. It's just full of blind belief and fallacious reasoning that you actually think is logical. Excuse me, but you don't have to be a skeptic to see a problem with that.

It's like you're trying to prove to me that the earth is not flat by showing how apples are actually the same as oranges when I never thought the earth was flat in the first place. And for the sake of an accurate analogy, you might be a little sketchy on what an orange is.