TF2 Thread, now featuring HALLOWEEN!

Not true.
Sandman and Force of Nature are both better than the default pack.

Okay, fine, sandman is epic, but I wasn't counting it because it's always banned in competitive matches (lolololol).

Default shotgun is much better than the force of nature. You always effing reload with the FoN. The only way you can kill is to kill SQUISHIES POINT BLANK with both shots. You can't even get point blank 99% of the time with your second shot because of the knockback. You can say goodbye to killing soldiers, pyros on some occasions, heavies, and demoman. Scouts are out too, because since when will you encounter one point blank? Only ones are snipers, since they're scoped in usually, and perhaps medics on occasion. Engineers are always camping, so that's a no. The only positive is triple jumping or knocking people off of cliffs (which is fun, I'd admit, but I got a pyro for that).