[GMST] [0.99] Chaos

Agares Bloody Hammer
1H BW - Warriors only
Set: (#18) Agares Bloody Set
Req Level: 130

Agares Headsplitter
1H Axe - Warriors only
Set: (#18) Agares Bloody Set
Req Level: 130

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...........................
WHOA
ARE THOSE FAST 5 WEAPONS I SEE?
AND THEY AREN'T SWORDS?
OH MAH GAWD.

Hey, champ, care to check the level on those things?
Yeah, pretty sure those say '130', not '140'.

Thanks for the effort; you can't fail without trying.

the whole point of my post as to say that adding dex wasn't required, that was the only thing i was trying to show, wether stereo did it or not months ago is not relevant, unless you mean the post a few pages back, in which he did the math with his nightlord equipment, i just showed the amount of dex these equips added by themselves, he did all the switcheroo in his NL, i showed the numbers the equips give, it's different.

The original point of the post is irrelevant; my original reply was focusing on a single line.
Not sure why this is even being discussed.

about the "everything has attack" part, it's the simple fact that the more attack you have, the less effective it becomes

Which is equally true for %Primary, something that anyone equipping these would have in butt-tons.
But, Captain Strawman, 30 attack isn't the only thing you get; 30% Boss will be better for anyone who has the funds to get this set.

about the illusion of more options, sorry but no, remember what i said about hybrid being the best way? yea, the reason it was the best way, is because there were less efficient ways that people still chose to follow, i.e. the pure spear, or pure polearm drk, those still exist, albeit mentally instead of skill-enforced, so even though they are worse options, they are still options maybe not for me or you, who like efficiency, but to someone else who simply, hey, doesn't like polearms

Hey! Look! It's a paragraph of bullpomegranate!
Early game, yeah, people may screw around with different weapons, but Maplestory is a game of efficiency.

End-game, there is only one viable option: polearms.
No rational person in GMS is going to choose anything over the Purple Surfboard, regardless of looks.

about the "i was aware DrK used spears, thanks for backing up my point" i wasn't, since BB, spears haven't been the way to go, but polearms, back then we used spears because it was the best, now we use poles because they are the best, your suggestion of "taking the poles away" was a nerf, nothing more.

My point was that Spears were your primary weapon before Big Bang, so I don't get all the whining about "OH NO! POLARMS R OURZ! ARANS CANT HAV!"

So your entire post is just going to be asserting what I've already said? Well, that certainly makes this easy.
this was regarding taking away all polearms, the only fast spear we would be left with, can't even get boss 30%, and as such, it's useless

You still haven't shown that Dark Knights need a Fast Spear, making this comment meaningless.

Aw. Poo baby and your one speed. Too bad that couldn't possibly be remedied by making other balance adjustments.
excuse me for not having blindingly fast attacks where a 1 speed difference isn't that big (or at least we didn't, here comes impale) and you nowhere in your post suggested to "remove poles and make spears faster" you just said "poles for the arans, take it from the drK's, end.

And ya'll never had blindingly fast attacks before; that's not what the class is about. Seems like you're essentially whining about basic pillars of your class like they dropped out of no where. That'd be like me whining about not being top-tier damagers.

And, no, I didn't say to make Spears faster. That'd be moronic; it's not what Dark Knights are about.

That said, you're a bit ignorant.
Newsflash, slugger:
Sacrifice, with a Normal (6) weapon is faster than both Intrepid Slash and Blast using a Fast (5) weapon. (Booster included to change speeds).

All I see is a greedy bastard who wants his class to have everything.

Also, not all 1H BWs are Normal (6). And, yes, it is a moronic statement because you've shown that you missed the point entirely.
according to the ETL, which i checked before even making that comment, yes they are, or at least all of them excluding the "psb" duck tube, and pyrope, which is fast 5, and what point? the point where i am supposed to put words in your mouth? because you could have put some in mine and not argued about a lot of things both of us know, just for the sake of arguing

It's funny how many people have said that I argue "just for the sake of arguing." What an asinine statement.

I made two statements which amounted to:
"Choosing to stick with five items of a 140 set instead of getting the sixth is moronic."
and
"Spearmen should, OMG, just use Spears."

Any other argument was caused by you straying from those original arguments; both of which were pretty damn simple.

That aside, I have no idea what the "ETL" is, but it's inaccurate, as was your statement.

I've said plenty of times that I wish they made Palis use 1H axes/swords/BWs, Heroes use 2H axes/swords/BWs, and Dark Knights use spears. The entire purpose would be to ensure that all weapons had some worth/use. Axes and BWs could have their base attack/multipliers adjusted appropriately to make them on-par with swords.
you know very well it wouldn't work, first week the best paladin weapon would be known, and it would be the only thing everybody would aim for, same for hero weapon. and nice, 3 kind of weapons for heroes/pally's, and dk's stuck to spears, where it would be even more forced what to use, just saying, have you seen the aran forums in basil? "should i use an arcglaive or X?" "arcglaive" no questions, no doubts, nothing. just one weapon, better than all the others.

I see you're going to take the "let's put words in his head" route.
No, I don't "know very well it wouldn't work." If I believed that, I'd be an idiot to suggest it as it would contradict my own views on the subject.

And what would be the best weapon for Heroes? And for Palis?
Pretty sure the Arcglaive is no longer the only option, but thanks for playing.

i do agree spears could be better, but we also have a better option available, the polearms, if anything, instead of you and me exchanging blows on what should stay and what should leave, we should question why nexon is trying to bury spears, note: bury them, not fix it by deleting poles from our ability and saying "lolfixed" while leaving us with subpar weapons.

It's cute the way you not-so-slyly try to tell people what they should be doing.

Nexon isn't trying to bury spears; they just have a terrible sense of balance.
They believe that giving spears a meaningless bit of extra attack makes up for a two speed difference.

"Subpar" is completely subjective and relative, btw. You'd only miss them because you've been spoiled.

and about the 1h, my mistake, i mistook the 130 with the 140

Yeah, strange the way Nexon stopped making Axes and BWs for new sets (the ones that aren't just recolors).
Maybe because they realized that, due to their current failed system of balancing, any new Axe or BW would either be redundant or inferior to their Sword counter-part.

Can't wait until the day when they just stop making Spears. Maybe then ya'll can peach about that.

then again, was the "clouded mind" comment necessary? i swear, and i am telling you up front, what annoys me of you isn't that you insult people, but that you do on stuff i am sure even you don't believe, seriously? so because i said 140 means i couldn't have made a mistake and see a number wrong? if that's all it takes to have a clouded mind, i'd fear to see what you think a genius is.

Oh, I was sure you were referring to the 130 BW. However, the "clouded mind" comment wasn't a response to that mistake, but to your responses in this conversation as a whole.

Is Von Leon really nerfed

Hard to tell since that is a "new" monster.
It also summons "Pie monster"...

Likely an event summon.