2011-06-08, 04:33 PM
White Wrote:In my experience with timeless, being in the first group to bring any timeless anything into Khaini (other than that stupid box drop event during evan release), even claws weren't going for 2b+. If it's a good level 140 weapon i'll put it at a solid 1.3b. Less used weapons and normal gear I can't see reaching above 1b.
Because just giving an item to a runner is, in fact, wasteful. The purpose, as I understand boss runs, is to mutually make money and boost up the group of runners. Within those two goals, which interlap, comes many other benefits that I won't bother addressing. Just giving a sword to a runner, how do you decide which runner? What if that runner booms it on a 90% pot scroll? Do they get another? How is that fair to the other runners? What about buying it for a discount after they've shown their dedication to the runs? That's why we do it our way. It also gives the market time to react to the new items so we can decide how much to sell to runners.
Keep in mind, runs aren't free. Especially as the group is just figuring out how to kill her. KMS PB is different from GMS PB. There's a learning curve. The probability of KMS CE being different from GMS CE is noticeable, and worth taking into consideration.
I'm aware runs aren't free but they aren't exactly bank breaking either. Do people even use apples anymore? As for who gets what when Thats what the whole point system was for. If they get it and boom it with a 90% oh well so sad too bad get to the end of the line in the meantime heres some money from equips none of us need or we already got them. The way its being done now sure people get paid every step of the way but in terms of getting said equip your going to be waiting a while to gather up that 1.3b(which could have been spent scrolling the damn weapon or equip) from day one getting stronger and just selling everything else. The way you all are doing it now is just inefficient. instead of using them money you get from the runs to upgrade yourselves your using it to buy said equips then you gotta do more runs to get more money to scroll the thing which just takes longer.
As for the market You know as well as I do you marty's and maybe one other group will be doing this at all meaning you can practically price them at whatever the hell you want.
Boss runs are only expensive because you make them that way you want apples arrange guild apqs or set up a guild fund meaning use splits from otehr runs(for example 10 people go to the run split the profits 11 ways the 11th would go into a guild vault which you would use to buy apples(if you chose to instead of apq) or but the items out the fm you need for pre quest It's the way I set my runs up. And the people who come to these events to help the boss runs along because as you said there's a learning curve your not gonna go in on the first day and clean house there will be failures. those who stay through the failed runs who come to the guild apqs to gather appels who donate to the guild fund to help with prequest items. Those people are dedicated to the runs and they shouldn't have to pay for the damn equip just because some people are too damn lazy to help out