I was hunting Headless Horseman today and this happened D=

The person that is in the map first deserves the loot just as much as anyone else.

What you do personally when you see someone killing a boss you want to kill is your own choice. It doesn't have a thing to do with respect, but if you tell someone that they have less of a choice than you do, that would be obvious disrespect.

You use a horribly biased example. Another example just as biased would be someone who plays casually and has been looking for a Pianus to kill for months so that he can get his level 20 SE book. He finally finds one being killed by a level 100 DK that is missing, and people in this topic would say that he is being an "pimento" for wanting to get his 4th job skill that year.



I don't get this unjustified anger that you speak of, no. Get over yourself, you can't tell people what emotions they have. I don't like it when people kill me with bombs at Pianus, and prefer not to be, but it would make no sense for me to get angry at people that have no control over whether the boss is FFA, and are simply playing the game the way it is. If I didn't want the risk of having my bosses killed, I wouldn't even go to them in the first place.

What you say about Headless is true sometimes, like not during peak hours, but it isn't always. If you have a normal sleep schedule and have little choice but to kill the first one you find, which may or may not be in an empty map, there's nothing wrong with wanting to get a head before you go to sleep. The GMs don't need to go out of their way to state every obvious thing, especially when it is implied many times over. Pressing ESC, enter, right arrow, and enter, doesn't have a thing to do with how lazy or greedy a person is, I can't even believe you could be so self-righteous to say something like that.

It being rude is your flawed perception of it. You only feel that way because you are egotistical and saying "what he did was wrong! however, I, by pressing the ESC, up arrow, and enter keys, am doing what is just and fair :]" gives you a false sense of superiority. You, I, or anyone else that will typically change channels when they find a boss already being killed are not better than anyone who does otherwise.

The person in Alloy's post is a perfect example of someone who just wants the boss to be killed (bosses exist to be killed, unlike infinitely spawning normal monsters) and enjoy doing it. If someone is tracking you and following you to each and every boss that you go to, you could call it being an ass, but unless something very specific like that occurs, you can't judge people so quickly.

Don't you think the fact that everyone is arguing against you should tell you a little something about your viewpoint here? Socially, in game, it is considered rude to start attacking a monster that someone else is attacking. It doesn't matter if it's a level 10 beginner fighting a green snail or a level 200 fighting Anego, they were there first, and if you even have the tiniest bit of respect for your fellow players you will not disrupt their playing of the game. By attacking that boss, or snail, or whatever it is that they are fighting, you are showing an extreme amount of rudeness and disrespect. Wouldn't telling the person who has already been killing this boss for 10-15 minutes "TOO BAD FFA" be depriving them of the choice to get their items?

In your little DK example up there, it really comes down to whether they're capable of actually defeating the boss. A level 50 Spearman could easily take any hit that HH has to dish out, but that doesn't mean he can kill it. If a 100 DK can't hit it enough to get over the HP regen then he obviously doesn't stand a chance of killing it. These kinds of people usually request help when they're coming in. Besides the fact that a 12x archer couldn't survive pianus attacks and hunting for SE 20 at that level is horribly inefficient, and that there are very few casual players who actually go to bosses, which pretty much renders the whole scenario moot, that DK would inevitably get bored or annoyed with messing with that Pianus.

"FFA" is an excuse used solely by greedy, rude, disrespectful people who are only interested in their own benefit of the scenario. They attack the boss to steal the drops, they attack it to sap the EXP, but for no reason do they ever do it for a good motive. It is purely out of a selfish desire to benefit. It's pretty rare that anyone actually "needs" something from a boss. Even when they do, it's normally not something that actually requires them to KS to get. I have a good example of this in the Bosshunter armor. To create bosshunter Helmet, I needed a Tengu nose. Rather than go around and KS people who are already fighting it just because I need something, I politely ask them for the nose, should it drop. They always agree; after all, it's not something they need, and I don't have to bother them. If anyone ever needs a Headless Horseman head, I will gladly do the same. Quests are pretty much the only time when you actually need to participate in the slaying of the boss, and the only bosses which are actually required are Area Bosses, with relatively short spawn times, and Pianus, where you can simply be partied and wait outside the door until it dies to get the item you need. All of these examples require a mere request on the part of the newcomer to the person already here rather than inciting conflict by blindly and greedily diving into battle.

KSing is inherently rude, because it displays a lack of respect and common courtesy. How can you say that these rules apply to one set of monsters and not another? It is not in some way "Egotistical" to not want to ruin someone's fun. People who do go around and deliberately use this little "FFA" argument to justify their KSing are not the kind of people most want to associate with. If they do it to the wrong person, then they'll probably find themselves harassed. Naturally someone under this "FFA" ideology would avoid these people in the big guilds to not get harassed. So why is it only fair for people who aren't in big guilds to get harassed? It isn't.

Oh yeah, not to mention that KSing of any kind is against the ToS, so the FFA argument is disestablished there.