I was hunting Headless Horseman today and this happened D=

The person that is in the map first deserves the loot just as much as anyone else.

What you do personally when you see someone killing a boss you want to kill is your own choice. It doesn't have a thing to do with respect, but if you tell someone that they have less of a choice than you do, that would be obvious disrespect.

You use a horribly biased example. Another example just as biased would be someone who plays casually and has been looking for a Pianus to kill for months so that he can get his level 20 SE book. He finally finds one being killed by a level 100 DK that is missing, and people in this topic would say that he is being an "pimento" for wanting to get his 4th job skill that year.



I don't get this unjustified anger that you speak of, no. Get over yourself, you can't tell people what emotions they have. I don't like it when people kill me with bombs at Pianus, and prefer not to be, but it would make no sense for me to get angry at people that have no control over whether the boss is FFA, and are simply playing the game the way it is. If I didn't want the risk of having my bosses killed, I wouldn't even go to them in the first place.

What you say about Headless is true sometimes, like not during peak hours, but it isn't always. If you have a normal sleep schedule and have little choice but to kill the first one you find, which may or may not be in an empty map, there's nothing wrong with wanting to get a head before you go to sleep. The GMs don't need to go out of their way to state every obvious thing, especially when it is implied many times over. Pressing ESC, enter, right arrow, and enter, doesn't have a thing to do with how lazy or greedy a person is, I can't even believe you could be so self-righteous to say something like that.

It being rude is your flawed perception of it. You only feel that way because you are egotistical and saying "what he did was wrong! however, I, by pressing the ESC, up arrow, and enter keys, am doing what is just and fair :]" gives you a false sense of superiority. You, I, or anyone else that will typically change channels when they find a boss already being killed are not better than anyone who does otherwise.

The person in Alloy's post is a perfect example of someone who just wants the boss to be killed (bosses exist to be killed, unlike infinitely spawning normal monsters) and enjoy doing it. If someone is tracking you and following you to each and every boss that you go to, you could call it being an ass, but unless something very specific like that occurs, you can't judge people so quickly.

I think you're being too technical here. Yes, these bosses are free for all, but MOST people would leave, leading that to be the norm so that when people dont relinquish this "right" of theirs, then people become appalled.

You're right. In theory, if the boss wasn't closed off, then "anyone should be able to kill it". I dont know about you, but I myself, seeing someone at a boss would just go look for another one short of them saying something rude such as "cc plz" (yes I find that rude >_>) or "its mine, gtfo". They were there first, I'll let them kill it. You're right: In technicality, I have every right to attack that boss as much as you do. The difference is I choose not to and as do most people I know.

In your scenario of the 100 dk being at pianus, what I'd do is ask him if he wanted to help and if he said yes, I'd party him and help him kill it and in return, split the drops with him or whatnot. If he didnt, I'd leave. Yes someone else might end up ksing him, but that's not my issue, I did my part. Once I saw a 11x sniper with 6/9 puppet killing HH and there were none on the other channels (this was before CWK) so I just sat there and watched and gave him level 9 SE (which isnt much but helped nontheless) every few minutes to help him kill faster. It took him roughly 10 minutes to kill it and if I were to ks him, I'd definitely have been able to do so but I chose not to and helped him instead. I think I've seen Heidi (the girl a few posts up) at Snowman before in Scania (I remember most people I run into, mainly because she sold me apples once when I was contemplating immigration... least I think that was you... sorry if it wasnt) and she was killing it so I just left. I think afterwards, there was a channel in which we both landed at roughly the same time and by the time I got to the bottom (I really have no idea, server lag always makes you appear right), we just both attacked it and "ksed" each other. If two people get to it at the same time, I have no problems with it but what you're trying to say is a bit meh.

The ign in your info bar on the side doesnt exist on rankings so i have no idea what level you really are but it says hunter so I'll assume you arent aware or involved with "elite politics", which also plays a factor into this. Yes, these bosses are free for all, but that doesnt stop one guild from ksing the other because someone "ksed their anego" or something. The guild "ksing" could argue that its free for all, but that wont prevent the guild that "got ksed" from starting a ks war at skeles or newties or something. Perhaps its just a Scania thing, perhaps its trans-server, I dont know but Im just saying that's how it works. Back in the day, you can stay in the altar for hours on end because there was no timer before/after it. Can we say "Nexon made zakum without a timer so people can hold it so no one else can zak and they can monopolize Z-helm prices and keep them at 200 mill a piece"? You tell me.

Finding HH has nothing to do with your sleep sched, dont go around saying "If you have a normal sleep schedule" nonsense because it's not true. People live all over the world, people sleep at different times, it's just the way things work.

I agree that "we who dont ks other people's bosses are not superior in any way" but at the same time, that doesnt mean we're looking down on you with disdain. We're not out to get you, we're merely voicing our opinions. It is somewhat hypocritical that you insist and call Isaac (and others) egotistical for thinking that their way of looking at it is right when the basis of you calling them egotistical (that theirs is the only right way, at least you perceive to be so) is that they dont agree with you.

I see this thread getting locked soon so I'll just end it there but Findings, if you want to discuss on the matter further elsewhere, Im up for it. There are quite a few flaws in your reasoning as countless people have stated here.