2011-06-02, 09:49 PM
ShiKage Wrote:-What if you don't? Dark Knights aren't always available, as one should know, and they're definitely not always available in every party. If you're in a party without a Dark Knight, you're screwed.
I never have been without HB at PB or CHT because the DrKs my guild runs with are really strong and need SI. It just isn't a possibility for me not to have it and even if i didn't, he only does 14k touch to me. I have 15k base. I'd say it's safe to assume non-washed buccs would have decHB at least if they were at PB.
ShiKage Wrote:-Screw Punch + Fist is terrible and extremely risky on mobile bosses. If you KB it, you risk killing your party members. If the boss only moves slightly, or due to lag, moves and then moves back, you get screwed and end up hitting the body.
Wat. I have first hand experience on this. O_o CSB+barrage = faster PB runs vs me spamming demo. My guilds fastest run (19.4ish minutes) was because i used CSB+barrage the entire fight. The run before that i used it half the time and the run was a minute slower. We didn't even have as many attackers in the faster run. It's undoubtedly faster this way. o.o
If i KB it...i KB it into warriors who are tanking anyway. If i lag (rarely; only has happened once) or if KB gets taken from me...then i take touch. I can survive it. No big deal. I just have to retreat back again and use barrage to re-take aggro.
ShiKage Wrote:-Look, the Japanese have absolutely no effect on me as far as my view of my class. My character? Yes. My class? No. >_> I know the ins and outs of my class well enough to not be affected by what the Japanese say or think.
Fair point. I take back my unfair jab. But you still don't agree that buccaneers have better survivability (and advantages) than most...
IllegallySane Wrote:Hey, hey hey. That's not an effect from real life. Hell, pretty much all the Buccs on this forum except you consider the class weak. It probably helps you invested a load of funds on your Bucc, while everyone else here either didn't invest into potential or are too poor to be at the level you are. I can practically say ~60-75% of all the NX I've spent on Maple went solely to my Bucc. However, even with all the money I put into the class I still saw him as weak up to now. Why? Because at this current state of kMS everyone else are simply better than us, or aren't shafted so hard. We are good at... staying alive, and making slow classes faster.
Paladins are probably the penultimate example of a class that is not just very good at staying alive (sup Guard + Power Guard + Holy Armor + Achilles + high as the sky defense + high HP) but are decent enough in support to be brought to runs for support (who wouldn't say no to -20% physical damage, -accuracy, -defense from a boss, or +2 to your skills?) and according to the old DPS charts deal more damage than Buccs.
*Damn I need some popcorn.
Woahhhh. I didn't say we weren't weak, did i? (at least i didn't mean to say that) I meant that our damage is sub par in exchange for way more unique and useful skills/advantages than every other class does. Advantages that outlast new classes and revamps to the point that we've been backlogged in the update schedule.
Staying alive and buffing everyone else isn't all we're good for, and convincing even another bucc otherwise isn't even something i can easily do. It's because i've realized my class' potential applications that i've stuck with it for so long.
Paladins are a different matter because survivability for them isn't "active". It isn't something they have to think about. For us, each cast of a skill has to be accompanied with "will she bust out something that can lead to my death after i'm done attacking" or "should i interrupt attacking to rebuff while i think it's safe" or "should i go on the defensive or focus on attacking".