2011-05-24, 04:15 AM
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:No, this portion of the argument I've presented this whole time isn't about the "usefulness" of Dark Flare (which you happen to be thinking it's about). This potion of the argument is that Dark Flare doesn't work well in conjunction with the other aspects of the NL class, the majority of other classes, and doesn't work well with the nature of the boss itself.
Dark Flare is a party skill. That out of the way, I don't see why you say it doesn't work well w/ other aspects of the NL class. It doesn't actually have anything to do with the NL class at all. It's completely reliant on the other people in the party for it to do damage. Are you saying that the skill itself shouldn't be in the NL skillbook because it doesn't really fit well with the supposed lore of the class? As for it not working well with the majority of other classes, I can only chalk that up to a misunderstanding of the skill on your part. The purpose of the skill is to do damage is it not? If it accomplishes that goal, i'm unsure where the problem lies. As for bosses, lemme go through the main ones that come to my mind at 4am in the morning. HT/CHT, stationary, irrelevant. Zak/Czak, stationary, irrelevant. PB, always pinned so for all practical purposes, stationary and irrelevant, Statues are stationary. Toad, stationary and irrelevant. Guard Ani, not stationary, somewhat relevant. Grandpa, best solo'd but if he's not solo'd, he's pinned and thus like PB, essentially stationary and irrelevant. Krexel, stationary and irrelevant. Scar/Targ, just like PB unless players are goofing around hitting it back and forth, in which case optimal damage isn't a priority and thus Dark Flare isn't really a relevant thing. Anego, exactly like grandpa. The only boss I consider that your claim gives credence to is Van Leon, but I can't really address that as i've never actually gone to Van Leon. Pap, Crow, CWKPQ, Pianus, these are all bosses that are either best soloed, pinned or stationary.
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:How many times do I need to repeat it. Having high end damage doesn't excuse NL's from having skills that compliment each other.
Hopefully not any more. How many times do I need to repeat that i'm fully supportive of NL's getting their skills fixed up so that they don't have as many useless ones, and i'm totally on board with more synergy for the class? My problem has never been with synergy for NL's. It has merely been me addressing my concern that in fixing up skills to have more synergy, more damage will be added which I don't feel is necessary as NL's are already strong.
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:300k's on bosses with 60% PDRate with just NL buffs. I've went and checked the math. NL's would need 300-ish W.ATK with 21% gear on everything tier 3, 14% gear on tier 2's, and being level 200 Dexless to reach 295,807 damage on a maximum star. That's not the class being strong. That's the players playing those NL's having lots of high-end gear. However, that's a discussion for another time.
SE of course, echo usually, mw30 is standard, and stews or apples, not sure which.
Those buffs are to be expected in a run of only 180+ characters.