2011-05-23, 11:59 PM
White Wrote:How is it negative synergy when you're still doing damage? I'll address this more in a second.It's negative synergy because the effects of one skill used by that class reduces the effectiveness of Dark Flare, which is the skill in question. It's a no brainer to realize that Achilles will reduce the amount of damage dealt by Dark Flare doesn't make good synergy. The fact that it still allows Dark Flare to produce damage doesn't mean it has synergy. There's a large difference.
White Wrote:Any damage is a benefit. Secondly, I think you haven't been on high level boss runs if you think somehow our avoids make us not get hit. In a group of 6 people, comprised of NL's and BM's (remember that SE skill? It adds to your damage, remember? Yeah, we're in a party w/ NL's to buff you to do more damage) someone always gets hit. I have decent gear, and a decent range, and I get hit probably around or maybe a little less than 50% of the time. And bosses commonly spam attacks. If you went to high leveled bosses, you'd know that.So you're going to play the "you probably have no bossing experience" card now, huh? Sucks for you then. I've been fighting high-end bosses practically nonstop until the release of LHC and hackers hogging the channels.
First off, in a party of 6, sure, people will get hit. Whether or not it's worth getting free damage because 1 out of 6 people may possibly get hit doesn't suddenly change the skill into something great nor does it provide the synergy that I speak of. Second off, bosses don't spam skills enough to grant Dark Flare the decent damage output you're suggesting it gives. The only real exception to this is CZak skill spam during arm phase, however, half of the time, they just deal 1 damage to you. WOO! 13 DAMAGE REFLECTED BACK AT YA! HT and CHT are also not nearly as spammy as you suggest either. Damage dealt by Von Leon is laughable. PB takes an average of one attack every 2 seconds (sometimes faster) which is not spammy, AND he's not stationary meaning he can easily move out of range of Dark Flare should his AI permit him to move away from that direction.
So not only does Dark Flare lack synergy with your teammates, it also lacks synergy with the game itself.
White Wrote:This is why many BM's dislike NL's so much, because they are ignorant. If I got TWENTY-SEVEN attack arrows that were RECHARGEABLE for only a couple million mesos, I would NEVER complain about having to recharge them. Apparently you don't realize that Soul Arrow doesn't give us any attack. Doesn't matter what arrows we have in our inventory, we don't get it. I honestly cannot comprehend how NL's can say Soul Arrow is better than stars that give a noticeable attack bonus. If you want Soul Star and thus to lose nearly 30 attack, I wish you'd get it so you guys would seriously stop whining. It's unbelievably annoying and ignorant.We'll give you the 27 attack arrows if we can take 27 attack off of all your weapons and buff our claws by 30 attack. And that wasn't even the point he was trying to express.
White Wrote:Because classes can't be different? Need to have the same skills? Apparently you've so quickly forgotten how useless that critical is. As a BM, shooting 8.33 arrows a second, how impactful do you think that 1 critical is? I'll tell you, it's not impactful in the slightest. Plays a much larger role for MM's that have all 6 of their U.Strafe arrows crit. When this patch hits GMS, that Dodge will actually play a more noticeable role, but you still don't know what will happen to NL's upcoming. Ridiculous, take your whining elsewhere.The point isn't even about the classes being different nor the fact crits suck. It's about the skills not complimenting each other at all THUS HAVING NO SYNERGY. Joe's whole point was to show you that though archers can activate half of that passive effect by just dodging while Night Lords will practically never activate their half of the passive effect.
White Wrote:I can't. As that would be absurdly imbalanced. NL's already don't get hit too much. With 4k+ avoids and a 45% chance of MISS anyway, it would be an absurd buff to NL's that would, imo, make them way too powerful.The existence of AFA already makes BM retardedly strong. Why aren't NL's allowed the same luxury?

