2011-05-23, 03:44 AM
I can see White's concerns regarding a big tune up for NLs. I've played almost all the classes at bosses (except Paladin, Shadower, Dualblade), that includes a few high level NLs. There is no doubt they are the easiest to use at bosses for dmg. Even if papers say they have really low DPS, they do so much better at real battles than all other classes. I can use a level 18x NL and attack without being interupted for a full minute while my higher level BM with better funding can only do that for about 10 seconds at the same bosses. Hurricane stoping from taking dmg, skill locks, stuns all make a BM loose so much DPM that numbers on paper don't show. NLs don't have to worry about this for most of the boss runs letting them do so much more dmg. You can talk about pinning bosses with a BM where they do most dmg they can, but thats none of the major bosses.
NLs do have a lot of useless skills that shouldn't be there. They should get those fixed but that shouldn't mean they also get a huge boost in 1vs1 skills that people are suggesting (4, or 5 hitting 1vs1 skill). It should help them in training or something. Not for bossing where it makes all major bossing party's go 4NL, 1bishop etc. That would mean the balancing did nothing at all. NLs bossing ability is nothing to complain about. Maybe some change to avenger like the BM's got with inferno. Even support skills that boost their power is scary with their crazy formula, so I can't even agree with them geting much of those. They should get some flashy mob attacks, and some improvement in mobility (which is what they were suppose to excel at) but it shouldn't be increase in power. People can point at DPS all they want but everyone knows its no where near what happens in real battles. I've played corsair, BMs and mech at bosses. They put out high numbers on paper but that only shows at small bosses like anego, GB not at major bosses like Czak, HT etc. Changes that don't make all major bossing parties go NL, NL, NL, bishop, "buff mule", "buff mule" would be really nice.
I don't know what changes the other thief classes need as I never played a high level one to know how they do at bosses. But dual blades and shadowers especially seem a lot more fun to play than NL or BM.
NLs do have a lot of useless skills that shouldn't be there. They should get those fixed but that shouldn't mean they also get a huge boost in 1vs1 skills that people are suggesting (4, or 5 hitting 1vs1 skill). It should help them in training or something. Not for bossing where it makes all major bossing party's go 4NL, 1bishop etc. That would mean the balancing did nothing at all. NLs bossing ability is nothing to complain about. Maybe some change to avenger like the BM's got with inferno. Even support skills that boost their power is scary with their crazy formula, so I can't even agree with them geting much of those. They should get some flashy mob attacks, and some improvement in mobility (which is what they were suppose to excel at) but it shouldn't be increase in power. People can point at DPS all they want but everyone knows its no where near what happens in real battles. I've played corsair, BMs and mech at bosses. They put out high numbers on paper but that only shows at small bosses like anego, GB not at major bosses like Czak, HT etc. Changes that don't make all major bossing parties go NL, NL, NL, bishop, "buff mule", "buff mule" would be really nice.
I don't know what changes the other thief classes need as I never played a high level one to know how they do at bosses. But dual blades and shadowers especially seem a lot more fun to play than NL or BM.