2011-05-22, 07:12 AM
Polantaris Wrote:Yeah, most people will. But meanwhile, a majority of 4th jobs aren't even properly guided. A lot of guides are "Whatever you get/feel is needed" or "You have a choice between X and Y". That's exactly what will happen in future guides. With every skill being useful, there's not going to be a set guide, it's going to be different based on playstyles, what people want to use, and how people intend to play. The point is to make no skill useless and therefore no skill blatantly skippable, which nothing is anymore from as much as I can tell. There's no skill where you look at it and say "Ah, that's completely useless I don't have to bother with it." At some point, people WILL have to make choices, and THAT'S the point. Prior to this update, EVERY class was predefined by guides by players "Go with X, Y isn't wonderful so wait until the end, Z is useless, skip it." Z is out of the equation, yet you don't have the points to be able to go with every X and Y, so what exactly are people going to do? Make a choice. Regardless of if it's from a guide or not, by Lv.200, every player WON'T be exactly the same, unlike currently.
When everyone uses X to attack, and Y and Z do no actual to the way you play, you pick whichever gives you the most damage. There are no skills except Ultimate Inferno that affect "play style". You either use Hurricane or you use Ultimate Inferno. There's no "max x first to suit playstyle A, and max y first to suit play style B" because it doesn't exist. "Play style" only applies to a job that have a large variety of skills or application. That doesn't exist for Bow Masters, and hardly for Marksmen because they both get two attacking skills that are usually maxed first. Every skill Archers get that isn't Hurricane, Pierce, Ultimate Inferno, Ultimate Strafe are buffs to damage. The only importance is which ones give more damage because it's literally meaningless to get them in an order that makes you weaker unless you're just poor and can't afford the books, or you're naive enough to believe that an increase in avoid, or more damage from Elite Puppet will make you train faster than actual damage buffs.
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Exactly, Marksmen have boatloads of problems. Your numbers for Pierce aren't exact, but the same theory applies to anyone realistically trying to charge Pierce. Combine the window of error (where a 100ms overshoot is a 6% drop in DPS, and 100ms undershoot is a ~10% drop in DPS), and system/server lag, plus getting hit contribute to failing to meet these demands compared to Ultimate Inferno or any other mob skill in the game that isn't pomegranatety Big Bang where you just hold the button and pomegranate dies fast, and you're extremely inefficient.
And Snipe lag is spitting in Marksmen's face when AFA is instant.
The only real problem I have with Ultimate Inferno is it's a rehash like Ultimate Strafe. Shows no creativity. It could at least slow monsters, or push, or something. Not just do a longer DoT.