2011-05-19, 12:25 AM
iAmFear Wrote:Heal became a holy attribute skill with Big Bang, Holy Focus does check attributes. At least, until Jump made it so it worked on all skills.I seem to recall that, but I haven't really trained with my Bishop since way before Big Bang.
JoeTang Wrote:Paladin Hero: 284% * 3 * 1.495 * 2 * 1.64 * 1.25 * 1.182 / 0.84 = 7348.6%A few questions/comments on your math.
Shadower Hero: 210% * 3 * 3 * 2 * 1.6 * 1.25 * 1.0175 / 0.84 = 9157.5%
Hero Shadower: (90 * 6 * 2 * 1.6 * 3 * 1.0175 + 600 * 2 * 2 * 1.6 * 2.6 * 1.0175) / 1.86 = 8297.5%/s (Boomerang Savage Blow)
And if the damage cap didn't exist, Assassinate would do (560 * 4 * 2 * 1.6 * 5 * 8) = 286720%, and you take like 9.5 seconds to charge so it does 30181%/s
You can get Combat Orders from a Paladin in a party, and you'll almost never find a worthwhile boss weak to any element. If there's some way you can get situations where you have advantage, the Paladin combination will have the upper hand.
And you can get Chance Attack from another character's debuff, and after Jump, Panic can give Darkness to a boss.
"Paladin Hero: 284% * 3 * 1.495 * 2 * 1.64 * 1.25 * 1.182 / 0.84 = 7348.6%"
What is the "1.182/.84"?
"Shadower Hero: 210% * 3 * 3 * 2 * 1.6 * 1.25 * 1.0175 / 0.84 = 9157.5%"
What is the "1.0175 / .84"?
Also, what does that second "3" signify?
My numbers are:
Paladin Hero: 357% (one hit of Blast) * 3 * 1.495 (charges) * 2 (ACA) * 1.64 (Enrage) * 1.25 (Chance Attack) = 6564%
Shadower Hero: 213% (one hit of Intrepid Slash) * 3 * 2 (ACA) * 1.6 (Enrage) * 1.25 (Chance Attack) * 1.5 (Shadow Partner) = 3834%
I find labeling my math helps clear up some confusion slash makes finding errors a bit more simplified.
I'll trust you on Boomerang/Savage Blow since, again, I don't know pomegranate about Dits.
Same with Assassinate, because you'd have to explain the nuances.
As for "worthwhile bosses", I also don't know what JMS has, but that's generally true.
My only argument is that a Pali/Hero doesn't need an elementally weak boss to beat out a ShadHero.
With that in mind, I'm comparing one character to another, not parties.
If you want to discuss how other character's buffs would affect the comparison, that's a whole different story, isn't it?
The same would apply to talking about future patches since, if you're going to use one change, you have to use them all.
Picking and choosing updates doesn't create a realistic picture.

