This thread still makes me queasy to my stomach, for real. im gonna make a post that will make everyone else queasy. I'm pretty much being a broken record but its the only thing i can think of concerning this.
I'm not going to beat around the bush this time (i think) so be ready to hear a dirty detail or two.
Aside from rapists and such threats to people, why SHOULD we be concerned with what turns on other people? No, really. What people wanna get off to is nothing I even WANT to think about. I even don't like needing to think about it just to make this post. I just believe its healthier to just say: I DON'T WANT TO EFFING KNOW. Don't tell me about it, nor will i inquire. Keep it to your damn self or WILLING significant other, and everything is cool.
I already can't unsee the ones i do know of. (Thanks a lot Cracked for the mind-burning knowledge of a car fetish) But i am aware of one thing: All that people are thinking of is getting off. The nastiest way to put it, but you all have been dancing around the subject. Might as well get to it. Morals get brushed under the table and they, to put it in Sim's terms. WooHoo. In the moment, they're not thinking about how wrong/unnatural it is in reality, they're just off in their little fictional world. Then come back to reality and their morals, where they actually have an application and the restraint they provide are of a benefit to the person, and to society.
Is this different from people who watch violent movies or play violent games for entertainment? If yes, how so? Saint's Row for example, it revolves around gangs. People in real life have had their lives ruined by them, some have been killed by them, some had to pretty much keep their kids indoors most of the day to keep them safe, hoping one day they could move out of their infested neighborhood to somewhere they can walk outside freely. Yet, the majority of america's society recognizes it all as a fictional experience we apply little to none of real-world morality to, and take none of the virtual experience back into reality, and consider Jack Thompson an idiot. Has america gone morally bankrupt in doing so? It still appears we hate the damage gangs cause after all.
tl:dr Correlation does not always imply causation, a phrase we've all heard 1 million times. But its my belief here; After Flonne posted those statistics, even with the elements brought up in subsequent posts, the gap is still huge. Even in the more recent study by the U.N: (U.S. 28.6 per 100k, Japan: 1.2 per 100k, for 2009) Then on top of that, regarding of access to porn there's Surprising studies claiming the opposite scenario of it being causation. yes, there's studies to the contrary out there, but the ones saying the opposite outnumber them so far and they are backed with university sources so yeah...
I'm not saying loli stuff shouldn't disturb anyone. Hate it freely if you feel. I'm just saying, even so, its not really anyone's business but their own if they like any sort of fantasy unless it intrudes upon another person, or child's well being and safety. I really don't believe it should actively be thought about, kinda like when someone goes to use the toilet, you just don't think about what goes on in there. and in many cases, may only say as much about them as someone being a fan of violent media. I haven't spit on any Saint's Row developers for supporting gang violence btw... and i don't look down on friends who enjoy the series and are waiting for the newest game.
As far as the video itself, mazefind confirms korea doesn't think it dirty: should one culture 'learn' to get dirty vibes from something another culture does? If it wasn't made with perversion in mind, and the audience in question doesn't even percieve anything perverse, how can they spread sexualization? The only thing they have to do is when, and if it arrives here, edit it to suit North America's sensitivities, of which many finds a lot of stuff sexual.
My last question: If it doesn't threaten the well being,happiness and safety of anyone (self included): how is right and wrong universally defined?
I'm not going to beat around the bush this time (i think) so be ready to hear a dirty detail or two.
Aside from rapists and such threats to people, why SHOULD we be concerned with what turns on other people? No, really. What people wanna get off to is nothing I even WANT to think about. I even don't like needing to think about it just to make this post. I just believe its healthier to just say: I DON'T WANT TO EFFING KNOW. Don't tell me about it, nor will i inquire. Keep it to your damn self or WILLING significant other, and everything is cool.
I already can't unsee the ones i do know of. (Thanks a lot Cracked for the mind-burning knowledge of a car fetish) But i am aware of one thing: All that people are thinking of is getting off. The nastiest way to put it, but you all have been dancing around the subject. Might as well get to it. Morals get brushed under the table and they, to put it in Sim's terms. WooHoo. In the moment, they're not thinking about how wrong/unnatural it is in reality, they're just off in their little fictional world. Then come back to reality and their morals, where they actually have an application and the restraint they provide are of a benefit to the person, and to society.
Is this different from people who watch violent movies or play violent games for entertainment? If yes, how so? Saint's Row for example, it revolves around gangs. People in real life have had their lives ruined by them, some have been killed by them, some had to pretty much keep their kids indoors most of the day to keep them safe, hoping one day they could move out of their infested neighborhood to somewhere they can walk outside freely. Yet, the majority of america's society recognizes it all as a fictional experience we apply little to none of real-world morality to, and take none of the virtual experience back into reality, and consider Jack Thompson an idiot. Has america gone morally bankrupt in doing so? It still appears we hate the damage gangs cause after all.
tl:dr Correlation does not always imply causation, a phrase we've all heard 1 million times. But its my belief here; After Flonne posted those statistics, even with the elements brought up in subsequent posts, the gap is still huge. Even in the more recent study by the U.N: (U.S. 28.6 per 100k, Japan: 1.2 per 100k, for 2009) Then on top of that, regarding of access to porn there's Surprising studies claiming the opposite scenario of it being causation. yes, there's studies to the contrary out there, but the ones saying the opposite outnumber them so far and they are backed with university sources so yeah...
I'm not saying loli stuff shouldn't disturb anyone. Hate it freely if you feel. I'm just saying, even so, its not really anyone's business but their own if they like any sort of fantasy unless it intrudes upon another person, or child's well being and safety. I really don't believe it should actively be thought about, kinda like when someone goes to use the toilet, you just don't think about what goes on in there. and in many cases, may only say as much about them as someone being a fan of violent media. I haven't spit on any Saint's Row developers for supporting gang violence btw... and i don't look down on friends who enjoy the series and are waiting for the newest game.
As far as the video itself, mazefind confirms korea doesn't think it dirty: should one culture 'learn' to get dirty vibes from something another culture does? If it wasn't made with perversion in mind, and the audience in question doesn't even percieve anything perverse, how can they spread sexualization? The only thing they have to do is when, and if it arrives here, edit it to suit North America's sensitivities, of which many finds a lot of stuff sexual.
My last question: If it doesn't threaten the well being,happiness and safety of anyone (self included): how is right and wrong universally defined?