top 10 jobs after chaos?

No, YOU were trying to prove that no one solos those bosses. I provided evidence of the contrary.

to be quite honest I didn't even know you were talking about soloing bosses until you recently stated so. I just took it and said whatever. You brought up the 2 bosses as a means of proving to me that the invincibility frames were useful then when you said solo is when I said yeah because everyone solo's those two bosses.. then you gave a video as if soloing von leon, and empress is some sort of common event.

Show me where i said this was the case. In fact i remember saying that "everyone" is not a word to use for end game bosses, implying that the majority does in fact have nothing to do with it. You're regurgitating my arguments at this point.

I understand you stated that but you brought up end game bosses not me, I was speaking in general which would mean things that are common. But no my point would remain if you're fighting an end game boss you're not worried about getting this or that invincibility frame, you're trying to dish out your maximum damage so you can kill the damn thing. When you see NL's using Drain at end game bosses let me know, When you see shadowers using Chakra at end game bosses let me know, the list goes on and on.

No i didn't. I literally just explained to you why CoH wasn't used and where it would be used. Not needing it in the only part of the fight displayed doesn't mean it wouldn't be used at all. It would help if you would read what you're quoting before coming up with a response.

I know where it CAN be used, my point in all this is that where it CAN be used isn't a necessity and you're better off just maxing out your dps. CoH isn't saving anyone from death end of story. I am reading you're just dragging an argument on when there's no further point to it. I guarantee CoH will be used as much as L7 is by nightlords once chaos comes around.

Correct me if i am wrong, but wouldn't "proving my statement useless" be defending yourself? I'm defending myself. No need to be afraid of doing so.

And Von Leon is very often solo'd. I gave you a very VERY good reason why people do so on the last page.

No, proving a statement wrong isn't defending myself it's simply proving what you're saying as false, it doesn't have to benefit my argument. I'm not afraid but feel free to stroke it whichever way you like. Von Leon often solo'd? lols ok. Your reasoning wasn't very good so you might want to try again.

There have been videos of DB's using the first attack of CoH to avoid RGTS's attacks pre-BB. 99% sure it was Cyanne, who quit afaik. Search results for said video are inconclusive, but i know for a fact that it is doable, and if i had a DB i would very easily show you that you are, as you have been from the start, WRONG.

PRE-BB DUDE, WE'RE TALKING AFTER CHAOS. Also I already know what it's like doing that I solo'd RGS back then many many times. RGS is easy to do so but the combo will not suffice for all monsters, try doing so on anego continuously. Eventually the attack of the monster catches up with your frames and you WILL get hit. No you think you're right because you have no hands on experience, when you get some thn we can continue this discussion, for now it's 4 am and i'm heading to bed.

I didn't say invincibility frames would keep you 100% untouched. I said invincibility frames would AID in you not dying. There is a difference, and if you're unable to comprehend the applications of the very valuable skill of staying alive in pot cooldown, then i believe my involvement in this thread is over.

No pomegranate they aid in you not dying but if you didnt die from the damn attack you eventually got hit with what is the whole point of using them? To SAVE POTS, which ISNT the objective in bossing.. The objective in bossing is getting your maximum dmg output while not dying! Also CoH will not make such a drastic difference in pot cool-down situations, I suggest you get some hands on experience with oen before speaking out on it. This isn't buccaneer invincibility frames we're talking about here (not because you are one but because they have some really nice invincibility frame work).

Anyways goodnight takebacker. Reply's are in bold.

i'm pointing out that you are fixated on the video when the concept is important.

Yes, i'm fixated on the fact that I stated " because everyone solo's Von leon, and Empress." and he decided to post a 3 minute video of an attempt, to discredit my statement. The concept is not important because CoH wasn't used, nor can we see an actual video of a complete solo.

In all honesty though, he misunderstood what I was saying in the first place. I wasn't stating that CoH was a useless skill I was stating the book is worth nothing and will continue to be worth nothing after chaos as well.