2011-04-15, 03:53 AM
Shidoshi Wrote:moderate =/= alcoholism
Shidoshi Wrote:The article's results are very bad and have no value on this discussion. I know many people who drink alcohol moderately (either very little every day or not very often).
There's more to alcohol than getting drunk, you can't say that those non-alcoholic beers and wine have the same taste and quality of the real thing. Also, getting slightly drunk once a week is quite fine and goes way below the average stated on the article considering an average over the week.
Shidoshi Wrote:Cancer is not the only consequence of smoking. Bad breath, yellow teeth, loss of breathing capacity all come WAY before you even consider cancer (non-exhaustive list).
Intake of alcohol has pretty much no bad effects save for people who drink a lot and frequently.
:f6: Define moderate. Eliminating big quantities of alcohol takes time, 1 week or so I waas told by my introduction to psychology teacher. Eliminating alcohol consumes a lot of energy so hangovers are (or can be compared)* to depressions. Having no energy, wanting to do nothing, emotional distress and some others. Getting drunk/slightly drunk once a week is not moderate nor healthy. Any amount can lead to addiction. Addiction is not dependent on dose only, there are social and genetical factors that one must also consider. So, basicly since any amount can cause addiction, therefore moderate should not be considered save nor healthy. And IMO, consuming alcohol in regular basis is what leads to addiction. Even if it's just a cup of wine. 1cup of wine a week when you start, then since 1 cup doesn't have desired effect you drink 2 and so on:
Quote:There's a "feel the effect" limit and a dangerous limit. You're allowed to drink (do anything) between those limits. Even if you're not addicted you'll need a bigger/longer dose to feel the effect, therefore making your healthy "spot" smaller. If the addiction is bad you'll reach the dangerous limit and die______
octopusprime Wrote:The topic is the health effects, not people who do stupid pomegranate under the influence. But trust me, if smoking were recorded in the same way, it's numbers would get a boost.
You aren't seeing facts, you're just seeing what you want to see.
You're not seeing facts either, sorry.
Alcohol has effects on both cerebelum and frontal lobe. One is in charge of motor skills the other is in charge of thinking, taking desitions and uhh will check later. So, basicly you take poor decitions while being drunk. Sure, people already are stupid, alcohol just makes it worse. According to one study (the one I have's in spanish) any amount of alcohol makes your motor skills bad, so the chances of crashing even if you only drank 1 beer are higher than while being sober. One must count car crashes and stupid pomegranate people do while being drunk.
Accorrding to WHO "stupid pomegranate" make alcohol and alcoholism and public health issue:
WHO Wrote:* The harmful use of alcohol results in 2.5 million deaths each year.________
* 320 000 young people between the age of 15 and 29 die from alcohol-related causes, resulting in 9% of all deaths in that age group.
* Alcohol is the worlds third largest risk factor for disease burden; it is the leading risk factor in the Western Pacific and the Americas and the second largest in Europe.
* Alcohol is associated with many serious social and developmental issues, including violence, child neglect and abuse, and absenteeism in the workplace.
I have the impression that since alcohol is socially accepted people think it's not as bad.
Alcohol is just as bad as cigarrete:
Alcohol is just socially accepted but that doesn't make it "better" than cigarrette and some drugs.
Also on a side note, who knows maybe in 50years cigarrette and alcohol will be banned and cannabis will be legal. Those things tend to change a lot depending on social context.
If you consider it some psychotropics that are legal/ilegal and socially accepted/not-accepted sometimes aren't even legal/ilegal for rightful reasons.
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