2011-04-03, 01:38 PM
Not true. Monsters usually have very low knockback (Windraiders, before big bang, and maybe still, have ZERO knockback).
Meaning even if you miss them, they still get knocked back. Also my lucky 7 knocks back anything (other than some bosses) I throw it at. So why would one use vampire? Because if it DOES knock the enemy (or 3) back at all that disrupts them, its a second of you not getting attacked, which can be the difference between you getting knocked off of yer platform, and you staying on it.
From the lvls of 50 to 70, Vampire did me well. I had a mob skill as a sin at lvl 50... So... I know this math prolly does not work in my favor, but... Is hitting 3 monsters for 85% damage (or whatever this weak ass skill does, as was outlined quite nicely by Devil above), could that ever outdamage a lucky 7 on one monster? Well im pretty sure if lucky hit its low range and didnt crit, and then vampire hit is max ranged and crit'd with all of its hits, I think its damage can Sometimes beat lucky 7. (Though it will almost always lose if you use vamp on 1 mon, instead of 3 - I'm talking total damage output here).
At the very least it does speed up training at crows, especially when you learn how to "Jumpire" (I just coined that), and jump to KS other people by killing their platform with vampire. I am going to be trying to get a Screenshot of Neovicious proving that vampire does work with shadow partner, if I am wrong, I will admit it, but I played many hours as a cyg, and it always looked to me, like it was doing twice as many hits.
Now, about yer assumptions that you understand my motivations for making this thread, well:
I guess there's a small chance that our entire universe could suddenly be sucked into a singularity this very instant, students of entropy will know... that is a Non-zero chance as far as physics is concerned, so taking that into account, perhaps you are right and I want "justification for making a lousy choice for an Ultimate Adventurer."
I guess that is also a non-zero chance.
But to assume that you know whats going on inside the mind of another man (one who you have never even met in real life at that), is usually a fallacy on the part of the guy who thinks he has access to that info.
I personally think the title of this thread kinda sums up what I wanted out of it... Advice. I had "Another UA Nightlord question".
I am quite guilty of not taking much of yall's advice (although I did for some reason take the advice of my biggest detractor as far as I am concerned, at least about Drain, which yes I will eventually max). I'm also guilty of playing Devil's Advocate, for a skill that most agree sucks. But... I'd rather be a Sin WITH vampire (all other things being equal) than without it. It did make me look quite pro at scarecrows and got me to lvl 55 in about 45 min, at which point I went to Hoodos (cuz I'm nuts... and a noob I guess, I just like hoodos better).
Anyway... have you ever heard the term "Water off a pineapples back"?
Probably not, because I just made it, yet, I think it neatly sums up my attitude in regards to a certain user, who for evey reason I can think of (been here longer, is more pro, better at maple, probably even a hotter girlfriend) should have shut me down a while ago with his constant derogatory tone.
Unfortunately, the threats of not responding, are rolling off of my back much like water off of a pineapples back.
Cuz I'm a pineapple.... always have been. But I'm a good pineapple, more concerned with bringing my fellow maplers UP than bringin' em down. And when I encounter cats like this (especially on the internet)... It just makes me feel invincible.
EDIT: changed an embarrising P-UP
Super-edit - Yes I was wrong about vampire and SP... Ya got me...
Meaning even if you miss them, they still get knocked back. Also my lucky 7 knocks back anything (other than some bosses) I throw it at. So why would one use vampire? Because if it DOES knock the enemy (or 3) back at all that disrupts them, its a second of you not getting attacked, which can be the difference between you getting knocked off of yer platform, and you staying on it.
From the lvls of 50 to 70, Vampire did me well. I had a mob skill as a sin at lvl 50... So... I know this math prolly does not work in my favor, but... Is hitting 3 monsters for 85% damage (or whatever this weak ass skill does, as was outlined quite nicely by Devil above), could that ever outdamage a lucky 7 on one monster? Well im pretty sure if lucky hit its low range and didnt crit, and then vampire hit is max ranged and crit'd with all of its hits, I think its damage can Sometimes beat lucky 7. (Though it will almost always lose if you use vamp on 1 mon, instead of 3 - I'm talking total damage output here).
At the very least it does speed up training at crows, especially when you learn how to "Jumpire" (I just coined that), and jump to KS other people by killing their platform with vampire. I am going to be trying to get a Screenshot of Neovicious proving that vampire does work with shadow partner, if I am wrong, I will admit it, but I played many hours as a cyg, and it always looked to me, like it was doing twice as many hits.
Now, about yer assumptions that you understand my motivations for making this thread, well:
I guess there's a small chance that our entire universe could suddenly be sucked into a singularity this very instant, students of entropy will know... that is a Non-zero chance as far as physics is concerned, so taking that into account, perhaps you are right and I want "justification for making a lousy choice for an Ultimate Adventurer."
I guess that is also a non-zero chance.
But to assume that you know whats going on inside the mind of another man (one who you have never even met in real life at that), is usually a fallacy on the part of the guy who thinks he has access to that info.
I personally think the title of this thread kinda sums up what I wanted out of it... Advice. I had "Another UA Nightlord question".
I am quite guilty of not taking much of yall's advice (although I did for some reason take the advice of my biggest detractor as far as I am concerned, at least about Drain, which yes I will eventually max). I'm also guilty of playing Devil's Advocate, for a skill that most agree sucks. But... I'd rather be a Sin WITH vampire (all other things being equal) than without it. It did make me look quite pro at scarecrows and got me to lvl 55 in about 45 min, at which point I went to Hoodos (cuz I'm nuts... and a noob I guess, I just like hoodos better).
Anyway... have you ever heard the term "Water off a pineapples back"?
Probably not, because I just made it, yet, I think it neatly sums up my attitude in regards to a certain user, who for evey reason I can think of (been here longer, is more pro, better at maple, probably even a hotter girlfriend) should have shut me down a while ago with his constant derogatory tone.
Unfortunately, the threats of not responding, are rolling off of my back much like water off of a pineapples back.
Cuz I'm a pineapple.... always have been. But I'm a good pineapple, more concerned with bringing my fellow maplers UP than bringin' em down. And when I encounter cats like this (especially on the internet)... It just makes me feel invincible.
EDIT: changed an embarrising P-UP
Super-edit - Yes I was wrong about vampire and SP... Ya got me...