2008-09-30, 12:13 AM
GummyBear Wrote:I wasnt dexless. Just pointed out my training areas back then, and I am comparing that to now.
This is a dexless sin guide
Just letting you know that Dexless Sins can't hit Vikings at 80. Many people don't know that. That is one of the few times that Dexless Sins lack of accuracy holds them back, not that it really holds them back because Wolf Spiders is a much better place to hunt for Ilbis anyways.Quote:It depends on where you're training. I've seen 7x does 1-2hko at voodoo IIRC, and IMO, the extra 1-2% gives you more 1hko chances. By the time you had 21 avenger, you would've already maxed out SP...
OK, I am not sure what you mean by these comments. I don't understand where 21 avenger and maxed sp comes into play, because I am clearly advocating 1 avenger and max sp.
That is exactly what it is too, your opinion. That extra 1-2% damage doesn't really give you that much extra chance to ohko. Dexless Sins already have enough Juice in their hit that they should be doing enough dmg to almost ohko a voodoo every time. Simply turning on shadow partner should be enough to get over the hump and make a consistent ohko. When you are getting a consistent ohko every time that 1-2% extra dmg won't make a difference. Maybe I need to pull out some math, but I will save that for another rebuttal.
On another note, it took me 6 months to get through the 7x's. It was nice having that extra skill. If I would have found a certain place that didn't need it and grinded constantly until I maxed sp, never went anywhere else, never explored, etc etc, then I can see passing up avenger. But as it is, you can get another skill practically painlessly without waiting 10 more lvls, and that other skill has practical game value even though it doesn't do a ton of dmg at lvl 1. Don't underestimate Avengers ability to go through stuff.
Quote:On the contrary, I use avenger alot more than you think. I used to train at places like DT, viking, where avenger helps heap in mob gathering. But nowaday, there're better training grounds.What lvl are you? Maxed avenger and maxed sp is an awesome skill. I use Avenger all the time in training (except boss hunting). When you can gather a spawn together avenger does more dmg than lucky 7. And if you know how to do it you can hunt for ilbi at Wolf Spider almost exclusively using Avenger.
Quote:You're assuming too much. Either way, there's no right or wrong, it came down to personal preferences. But yeah, I got 13 FJs before I got SP, simply because I was bored with MS and I wanted to hunt bosses (MM and Jr Rog), so yeah, I walk around with 5 avengers first. If you like avenger that much, go for it, or if you're into damage, which is probably the reason why you're building a dexless sin in the first place, then go for max SP. There's no right or wrong.
Maybe I am, and your right, it all comes down to personal preference. There are efficient builds and inefficient builds though. All I can do is cringe at your getting 13 fj first. Getting one avenger hardly even affects your dmg at all.
I actually didn't get a dexless sin for the reasons you stated. I didn't know anything about Maple Story two years ago when I started playing and it is kind of the build that I ended up with talking to the friends that got me started playing the game. If you want to know how clueless I was I was almost lvl 30 when I figured out you could jump shoot to avoid punching the enemies....


