2011-03-13, 05:57 PM
Stereo Wrote:Unlike you, I'm not going to assume that the only reason they destroyed it was to hide the fact it's showing a cooling trend. Maybe they found out their collection process was flawed, and they'd rather not let people misconstrue their numbers. There are lots of reasons to invalidate a data set, and why keep garbage?
Opinions are not part of the standard scientific processes, except to the extent that scientists have to judge how significant a result is. Again you're only pulling partial quotes out of context so it is meaningless.
Partial quotes. Unless they publish fraudulent papers based on forged data (and you can demonstrate this is what happened), the emails are worth as much as any source of gossip - nothing.
If you read the Emails, you'd see that they where afraid of their data getting out, and this data was the data all of their work was based on.
And these are not out of context at all. If they are, then why dont you prove it rather than continue to just claim I'm wrong with no proof. At least I was able to prove evidence of BREAKING THE LAW. And since it was breaking the law, the data must have needed to be hidden. Why? Fraud. Why would you illegally destroy data if there was a minor yet explainable mistake?
You are also completely ignoring the fact that in the Emails the scientists admit the earth is cooling.
And scientific opinion is different than standard opinion, and is always backed by facts and reasoning.
and if you read the open letter, you would see over 140 scientists openly challenging the notion that Global Warming is real. Why? Because scientists believe that Global Warming is unproven - there is no proof (aside from fabrications).
And if you looked, many things these scientists published (like the fraudulent hockey stick graph) are based on these discussions.
Its also important to note that Phil Jones claimed he would destroy the source data if there was a Freedom of Information Act request, and it was later reported that a Freedom of Information act request found that all source data was destroyed.
There is a clear connection between them Illegally deleting data and those Emails. And before you can complain saying "then why isnt he in jail," He isnt because the statute of limitations passed before he could be charged.
Anyway, please learn to prove your claims. So far your "out of context claim" (which you should try to explain) is just a blanket excuse to dismiss the facts.
Now, regarding the Earthquake and Tsunamis:
California is monitering the issue because they believe there is the possibility that fallout reaching the states.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/12/ca...lear-leak/
BBC claims a second nuclear failure could occur
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12724953
A Volcano is showing activity:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...?track=rss
There is fear of a massive aftershock
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/monste...1bt2p.html