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Force, Work, and Energy
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 February 17

February 22

I met with my TA and he told me that my process seems true, and that he had never thought of friction in the way I described. However, I did make one error, and that was using Giancoli's E= ∫ F cos(θWink dl. My TA told me that this formula is designed for horizontal forces, and the force I wanted was vertical. Therefore, it'd be more logical to substitute sin(θWink in the place of cos(θWink. Working it out:

E = - ∫ μmg sin(arctan(-dx/dy)) dl

dl = sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2) dx

sin(arctan(-dx/dy)) = (-dx/dy) /sqrt(1+(dx/dy)^2)

Therefore:

E = -∫ μmg (-dx/dy) sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2)/sqrt(1+(dx/dy)^2) dx

E = -∫ μmg (-dx/dy) (dy/dx) dx = ∫ μmg dx

E = μmgx

What this means is that the shape of the curve doesn't matter. The sliding friction is purely dependent on the horizontal displacement, which makes sense based on the above. Therefore, my textbook is wrong, and I am happy. Lol. Being happy when my textbook is wrong... is wrong. ._.
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Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-16, 04:17 AM
Force, Work, and Energy - by Lozmaster - 2011-02-16, 09:21 AM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-16, 09:39 AM
Force, Work, and Energy - by Lozmaster - 2011-02-16, 10:24 AM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-16, 10:45 AM
Force, Work, and Energy - by Lozmaster - 2011-02-16, 11:32 AM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-16, 12:02 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-16, 02:31 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by XTOTHEL - 2011-02-16, 02:37 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-16, 03:07 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by Lozmaster - 2011-02-16, 03:47 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-16, 08:05 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-17, 07:37 AM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-26, 06:07 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by Shidoshi - 2011-02-26, 06:11 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-26, 06:30 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by Shidoshi - 2011-02-26, 06:42 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by 2147483647 - 2011-02-26, 07:00 PM
Force, Work, and Energy - by Shidoshi - 2011-02-26, 07:06 PM

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