2011-02-02, 07:47 AM
I think I'll just start over with my statements and combine them into one post.
I must ask a question. If vaccines are so safe, so perfect, then why has the federal government protected vaccine producers from bing sued and other legal sanctions? If vaccines are so safe, there would be no need for such protections.
Regarding Thimerosal, studies do show a connection with brain damage (autism being one side effect)? Some studies show that thimerosal does metabolize, releasing toxic mercury(II) which inflames the brain, causes rapid brain growth. Some lab rats receiving thimerosal began performing abnormal behavours. While I know people will deny the findings, at least this experiment used a control group that was not given chemicals found in vaccines.
This brings me to one major problem with those studies by the CDC, British Medical Journal, etc. None of them have a control group that is unexposed to vaccines. They can hardly prove or disprove any link between thimerosal and definitly do not prove people like Wakefield are frauds. In fact, Wakefield recently discovered that other studies before his confirmed his his results, and the British Medical Journal lied about the existence of these studies.
This isnt even the begining of the corruption. The CDC itself states
[quote]Thimerosal and Autism
In response to public concerns, VSD researchers have begun a case-control study to examine the association between thimerosal and autism rigorously. The study aims to determine whether exposure to thimerosal in infancy or in utero is related to development of autism. The study will also evaluate whether exposure to thimerosal in infancy is related to development of the subclass of autism predominantly associated with regression. As part of the study, researchers will use automated data and registries to identify children with autism (cases) and without autism (controls). In-person examinations, telephone interviews, medical chart reviews, and immunization tracking systems will be used to collect information on vaccine history and other covariates. Recommended by the Institute of Medicine, this VSD study will be the first rigorous, epidemiological study conducted on the issue of thimerosal and autism. Data from this VSD study should provide the best available scientific information on whether a causal association between exposure to thimerosal and the development of autism is possible.
This study is in the data collection phase.
[/quote]
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Activit...udies.html
The CDC just stated that there is currently no "rigorous, epidemiological study conducted on the issue of thimerosal and autism." They have absolutely no standing to say thimerosal is safe. They just stated that no conclusive study exists. One interesting note is the fact this study is behind schedule, but 13 months http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/09/cdc-a...ucted.html
I havent even begun to look into the CDC. Just look at the case of Dr. Julie Gerberding. Why did she work for Meric's vaccine division after she retired from being the head of the CDC in 2009? Am I the only one that notices a potential conflict of interest here? The unholy union between the government and special interests?
http://www.naturalnews.com/027789_Dr_Jul...Merck.html
Speaking of Merck, they apparently knew that a drug they released called vioxx came with a great risk to the heart and they attempted to cover it up. Their secret studies were revealed in court, and Australia ended up ruling that the drug should never have been approved.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029035_Vioxx_courts.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/027946_Merck_Vioxx.html
Its quite obvious that we are dealing with a corrupt CDC that is a little too cozy with drug lord Merck, who consistantly has disregarded the public's health in the name of profits.
Now back to vaccines and autism. Apparently a little interesting fact is that unvaccinated communities have fewer cases of Autism, by far.
1 in 100 are Diagnosed in the general public of America.
1 in 4875 are diagnosed in the Amish of Lancaster County.
1 in 10000 are diagnosed in the Amish of Ohio.
Then we have the Homefirst Health Services which as a rate of 0 in 35000.
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/quick-compare-2/
If thimerosal was removed from all vaccines, then why is autism still occuring? There are two posibilities on my mind.
1- Vaccines still have thimerosal. It was never removed from certain vaccines like the flu shot (which is recommended at the age of 6months), and the CDC declares that all vaccines have either no thimerosal or trace amounts. This trace amount excuse is the same reason transfat-free food can still contain significant amounts of transfat.
2- There are other toxic materials in vaccines. Two are Formaldehyde and Aluminum. Aluminum deservse special attention for enhancing the toxixity of other substances (including thimerosal by slowing the rate at which Thimerosal is removed from the body and allowing more HG(II) Ions to accumulate in the body) and on it's own being a neurotoxin linked to Alzheimers, ADHD, and obviously autism.
http://vran.org/health-risks/mercury-and...-outcomes/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...-2010.aspx
And I have only mentioned the surface of concerns with vaccines, and I still have two very important points to mention.
First, many scientists believe that vaccines may be innefective at preventing the disease. The Whooping cough epidemic was mentioned earlier, but one thing the media didnt cover was some interesting statistics. In california, between 44% and 84% of pertussis victims were fully vacinated. In Ohio and Texis the results were 75% and 67.5%. Even communities with a 90% vaccination rate had outbreaks. Then apparently a respected dutch scientist blames the outbreak on pertussis mutations - not unvaccinated people.
Then different statistics suggest vaccines are not responsible for the elimination or reduction in virus related deaths. Historical evidence suggests that imporved living conditions was the result, not vaccines.
I'll start with small pox. One claim about small pox was never eradicated. IT just has a new name: http://www.archetypeltd.co.nz/Smallpox.htm#eradication
And of course the same article comes to the conclusion that the cowpox vaccine does not prevent small pox, that the reduced cases were a result of increased living standards and that the best way to prevent small pox is hygene and proper quarentine policies.
And then there is statistical evidence that the small pox vaccine caused more deaths from small pox when the deathrate of small pox was in decline http://www.archetypeltd.co.nz/images/smallpox_graph.png
I'm still not done... I still have questions. For one, why are we taking unnecessary vaccines? Heb. B is a sexually transmitted disease, so why must we take the vaccine the moment we are born? Why not wait untill shortly before children become sexually active or have the potential to be exposed to the few other ways the disease can be transmitted? Also, why is gardasil recommended for males that lack the organs that HPV would cause cancer in? Also, why is Merck recommending the vaccine for 9 year old girls when their own scientists would not recommend the vaccine for anyone under the age of 18 and when their studies did not include women under 15?
Just to go on the topic of gardasil, apparently a scientist claims that it is a useless and dangerous vaccine:
[quote=Harper]The benefit to public health is nothing, there is no reduction in cervical cancers
"I think there's a strong possibility that Gardasil was the catalyst that set off the ALS [Lou Gehrig's Disease]. It could have been the straw that broke the camel's back in a child who was already predisposed to the condition. I do think it's wrong for physicians to tell parents that it's 100 percent safe."
[quote]http://www.naturalnews.com/027225_vaccin...vical.html
Then finally, regarding the UN and vacinations in 3rd world countries, we only have the word of the UN to go on and possibly some standard media outlets. But one thing is clear, countries with better sanitation and well kept records show a contradiction to the UN's claims. Besides, there has never been a true scientific study proving vaccines (double blind and placebo controlled).
[quote] My pediatrician for the last 6.5 years doesn't agree with my point of view on vaccinations but respects my choice. I remember refusing to let them give my son the "Prevnar" vaccine when it became available. This was suppose to help prevent pneumonia, meningitis and ear infections. Upon visiting my pediatrician many months later, he removed that vaccine from his office due to many children coming down with pneumonia and severe, recurring ear infections. That vaccine was recalled in 2009. I refuse to let them use my children as human guinea pigs. [/quote]
So the vaccine was recalled because it caused the issues it was meant to prevent? Anyone concerned over such results is justified in questioning and resisting.
Edit:
I should also mention that science should always be open to new ideas and that nothing in science has been completely proven aside from perhaps the most basic of physical laws like gravity, but even then it has never been proven how gravity works. This is why it is always important to welcome new ideas, and not behave like the churches who attempted to perpetuate the idea of a geocentric solar system and imprison those who questioned this obviously false claim. For vaccines, we need to not just accept the opinions of professionals with strong ties to drug companies and special interests and claim all scientists that disagree to be "conspiracy theorists." Name calling isnt science. The search for the truth through logical unbias means and an open mind to criticism is science.
I must ask a question. If vaccines are so safe, so perfect, then why has the federal government protected vaccine producers from bing sued and other legal sanctions? If vaccines are so safe, there would be no need for such protections.
Regarding Thimerosal, studies do show a connection with brain damage (autism being one side effect)? Some studies show that thimerosal does metabolize, releasing toxic mercury(II) which inflames the brain, causes rapid brain growth. Some lab rats receiving thimerosal began performing abnormal behavours. While I know people will deny the findings, at least this experiment used a control group that was not given chemicals found in vaccines.
This brings me to one major problem with those studies by the CDC, British Medical Journal, etc. None of them have a control group that is unexposed to vaccines. They can hardly prove or disprove any link between thimerosal and definitly do not prove people like Wakefield are frauds. In fact, Wakefield recently discovered that other studies before his confirmed his his results, and the British Medical Journal lied about the existence of these studies.
This isnt even the begining of the corruption. The CDC itself states
[quote]Thimerosal and Autism
In response to public concerns, VSD researchers have begun a case-control study to examine the association between thimerosal and autism rigorously. The study aims to determine whether exposure to thimerosal in infancy or in utero is related to development of autism. The study will also evaluate whether exposure to thimerosal in infancy is related to development of the subclass of autism predominantly associated with regression. As part of the study, researchers will use automated data and registries to identify children with autism (cases) and without autism (controls). In-person examinations, telephone interviews, medical chart reviews, and immunization tracking systems will be used to collect information on vaccine history and other covariates. Recommended by the Institute of Medicine, this VSD study will be the first rigorous, epidemiological study conducted on the issue of thimerosal and autism. Data from this VSD study should provide the best available scientific information on whether a causal association between exposure to thimerosal and the development of autism is possible.
This study is in the data collection phase.
[/quote]
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Activit...udies.html
The CDC just stated that there is currently no "rigorous, epidemiological study conducted on the issue of thimerosal and autism." They have absolutely no standing to say thimerosal is safe. They just stated that no conclusive study exists. One interesting note is the fact this study is behind schedule, but 13 months http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/09/cdc-a...ucted.html
I havent even begun to look into the CDC. Just look at the case of Dr. Julie Gerberding. Why did she work for Meric's vaccine division after she retired from being the head of the CDC in 2009? Am I the only one that notices a potential conflict of interest here? The unholy union between the government and special interests?
http://www.naturalnews.com/027789_Dr_Jul...Merck.html
Speaking of Merck, they apparently knew that a drug they released called vioxx came with a great risk to the heart and they attempted to cover it up. Their secret studies were revealed in court, and Australia ended up ruling that the drug should never have been approved.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029035_Vioxx_courts.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/027946_Merck_Vioxx.html
Its quite obvious that we are dealing with a corrupt CDC that is a little too cozy with drug lord Merck, who consistantly has disregarded the public's health in the name of profits.
Now back to vaccines and autism. Apparently a little interesting fact is that unvaccinated communities have fewer cases of Autism, by far.
1 in 100 are Diagnosed in the general public of America.
1 in 4875 are diagnosed in the Amish of Lancaster County.
1 in 10000 are diagnosed in the Amish of Ohio.
Then we have the Homefirst Health Services which as a rate of 0 in 35000.
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/quick-compare-2/
If thimerosal was removed from all vaccines, then why is autism still occuring? There are two posibilities on my mind.
1- Vaccines still have thimerosal. It was never removed from certain vaccines like the flu shot (which is recommended at the age of 6months), and the CDC declares that all vaccines have either no thimerosal or trace amounts. This trace amount excuse is the same reason transfat-free food can still contain significant amounts of transfat.
2- There are other toxic materials in vaccines. Two are Formaldehyde and Aluminum. Aluminum deservse special attention for enhancing the toxixity of other substances (including thimerosal by slowing the rate at which Thimerosal is removed from the body and allowing more HG(II) Ions to accumulate in the body) and on it's own being a neurotoxin linked to Alzheimers, ADHD, and obviously autism.
http://vran.org/health-risks/mercury-and...-outcomes/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...-2010.aspx
And I have only mentioned the surface of concerns with vaccines, and I still have two very important points to mention.
First, many scientists believe that vaccines may be innefective at preventing the disease. The Whooping cough epidemic was mentioned earlier, but one thing the media didnt cover was some interesting statistics. In california, between 44% and 84% of pertussis victims were fully vacinated. In Ohio and Texis the results were 75% and 67.5%. Even communities with a 90% vaccination rate had outbreaks. Then apparently a respected dutch scientist blames the outbreak on pertussis mutations - not unvaccinated people.
Then different statistics suggest vaccines are not responsible for the elimination or reduction in virus related deaths. Historical evidence suggests that imporved living conditions was the result, not vaccines.
I'll start with small pox. One claim about small pox was never eradicated. IT just has a new name: http://www.archetypeltd.co.nz/Smallpox.htm#eradication
And of course the same article comes to the conclusion that the cowpox vaccine does not prevent small pox, that the reduced cases were a result of increased living standards and that the best way to prevent small pox is hygene and proper quarentine policies.
And then there is statistical evidence that the small pox vaccine caused more deaths from small pox when the deathrate of small pox was in decline http://www.archetypeltd.co.nz/images/smallpox_graph.png
I'm still not done... I still have questions. For one, why are we taking unnecessary vaccines? Heb. B is a sexually transmitted disease, so why must we take the vaccine the moment we are born? Why not wait untill shortly before children become sexually active or have the potential to be exposed to the few other ways the disease can be transmitted? Also, why is gardasil recommended for males that lack the organs that HPV would cause cancer in? Also, why is Merck recommending the vaccine for 9 year old girls when their own scientists would not recommend the vaccine for anyone under the age of 18 and when their studies did not include women under 15?
Just to go on the topic of gardasil, apparently a scientist claims that it is a useless and dangerous vaccine:
[quote=Harper]The benefit to public health is nothing, there is no reduction in cervical cancers
"I think there's a strong possibility that Gardasil was the catalyst that set off the ALS [Lou Gehrig's Disease]. It could have been the straw that broke the camel's back in a child who was already predisposed to the condition. I do think it's wrong for physicians to tell parents that it's 100 percent safe."
[quote]http://www.naturalnews.com/027225_vaccin...vical.html
Then finally, regarding the UN and vacinations in 3rd world countries, we only have the word of the UN to go on and possibly some standard media outlets. But one thing is clear, countries with better sanitation and well kept records show a contradiction to the UN's claims. Besides, there has never been a true scientific study proving vaccines (double blind and placebo controlled).
[quote] My pediatrician for the last 6.5 years doesn't agree with my point of view on vaccinations but respects my choice. I remember refusing to let them give my son the "Prevnar" vaccine when it became available. This was suppose to help prevent pneumonia, meningitis and ear infections. Upon visiting my pediatrician many months later, he removed that vaccine from his office due to many children coming down with pneumonia and severe, recurring ear infections. That vaccine was recalled in 2009. I refuse to let them use my children as human guinea pigs. [/quote]
So the vaccine was recalled because it caused the issues it was meant to prevent? Anyone concerned over such results is justified in questioning and resisting.
Edit:
I should also mention that science should always be open to new ideas and that nothing in science has been completely proven aside from perhaps the most basic of physical laws like gravity, but even then it has never been proven how gravity works. This is why it is always important to welcome new ideas, and not behave like the churches who attempted to perpetuate the idea of a geocentric solar system and imprison those who questioned this obviously false claim. For vaccines, we need to not just accept the opinions of professionals with strong ties to drug companies and special interests and claim all scientists that disagree to be "conspiracy theorists." Name calling isnt science. The search for the truth through logical unbias means and an open mind to criticism is science.