2011-02-02, 04:21 AM
Unleashing Wrote:THAT'S THE POINT, shen's is MULTI TARGET.
Rammus is SINGLE TARGET.
That's just like single target spells hit for more than multi target. Derp.
If rammus' taunt is OP then so is shen's and taunt in general. Rammus' taunt is completely balanced. That's the only thing he has besides his surviveability, he can eliminate the threat of 1 enemy.
They're both taunts and that's what i'm comparing. Shen can even escape with it, he can also taunt for more time than rammus can if he taunts enough people. If he taunts 4 people and you add the time they're all 4 taunted he out-taunts rammus.
Sona needed locket to be good :/
pineapple riot for removing it, sona/udyr + locket= fun :C
Don't compare their single taunts. Compare their entire kit. If you look at it that way, the taunt does appear overpowered.
Rammus' taunt may be single target and close range, but not only does he have the means to get close enough to use it, he can cast it way more often than Shen can (because he's not restricted by a very limited energy pool - mana problems basically disappear late game).
The way I see it, Shen is more of a "defensive tank" and Rammus is more of an "offensive tank". Shen can take the heat off your carry, protect them in a crisis, and absorb damage via Feint and his naturally high defensive stats. Rammus basically singles out the enemy carry and goes, "Now you're dead". And he's really, really good at doing that. Probably a little bit too good.
On the Locket note, I understand Riot for taking that out. It's going to come back, but it needed to be removed until they can properly remake it. Locket is a good part of what made tanky DPS way too good.
On another note, I think Cleanse is overpowered and makes for a better escape than Flash does.