Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Arizona, Shot By Gunman

Anonymous Moose, I'm going to throw your logic back at you, solely because I'm curious as to your response.

Your entire claim for relaxed gun control laws is that "if ordinary, law-abiding citizens carried guns, which they don't have because they can't carry them, less crime would be committed due to criminal 'fear' and the ability for individuals to protect themselves." You back this statement up with the rhetoric that there is "no evidence" that supports the idea that stricter gun control laws make us safer.

So, here are my questions for you:

1. Did you actually look up studies investigating the hypothetical world of stricter gun control, and what they concluded regarding public safety? I'm sure an issue as important as this has been researched extensively, and you didn't bother to provide one source backing up your claim, which leaves room for considerable suspicion of truth.
   
   
   
2. To turn your logic back on you, where is the evidence that supports the conclusion that relaxed gun control laws make a safer society? You also did not provide this, which, again, does not do much for your claims.
   
   
   
3. Finally, I ask you this: I looked up gun control laws in the United States, and discovered that the earliest age one can legally obtain a firearm is 18 (though not all until 21). That means that any college age student in the United States is legally able to own a gun and use it, we'll assume, as a measure of protection, when needed. Since that's the case, please tell me why every student in the massacred classroom at Virginia Tech during the school shooting a few years ago did not have a gun on their person to protect themselves. I suppose the logical answer would be school rules preventing bringing guns to class, which of course leads me to my follow-up question to you as to whether or not you believe college and university rules should be changed to allow students to bring loaded guns to class as a measure of protection. You know, "just in case."
   

You see, the bottom line is that you did not provide solid, conclusive evidence supporting any of your claims, but merely the logic that "by owning guns, law-abiding citizens can protect themselves, which reduces crime." To essentially sum up a few of my aforementioned points, a simple counterargument would then be is it also not possible that the rate of crime could increase proportionally to the amount of law-abiding citizens owning guns? In other words, if every 18+ year old in the United States legally owned a gun, can you confidently tell me that crime rates would be lower than they are now?

Do you have any solid evidence that gun control laws stop crime and protect people from gun violence? I already see that you truely did not take the time to study American Law. If you did, you would notice that our gun laws vary greatly between states and even cities. Some areas are relaxed, but others like Chicago have heavy regulations (even calling for a complete ban on fire arms), but they have the highest rates for violence and crime. Just to quickly answer your question regarding Virginia Tech, many areas have laws restricting where you can use a gun. Common restricted areas include schools, churches, court houses, and banks. While not all areas have the same restrictions, this is one of the common types of restrictions.

I dont have much time right now, so I'll try to get to the point.

The first problem with Gun Control laws is that they a bill of attainder against our principle of "innocent until proven guilty." Rather than just punishing those that commit crimes, gun control infringes upon the rights everyone without and due process. Bills of attainder are illegal, but polititians and gun control advocates dont seem to care. As a result, everyone is treated as a criminal rather than just the criminals.

Second, why not allow people defend themselves? Creating gun free zones is just asking for trouble. In the school example, almost every person is disarmed, and if you are lucky a police officer or two will be on campus. Even if an officer is on campus, he or she will be ineffective. If someone with the intent to kill walked onto a campus while armed, he or she would be in the building and capable of killing the moment he or she was in. To make it worse, classrooms are deathtraps, and it would be easy for the gunman to gather a sizable group of hostages. History shows that such situations dont end well.
What would happen if student's could bare arms on campus? Its quite simple, they could fight back. Instead of cowering in fear, several students will be able to shoot the gunman and limit the death toll. There wont even be a hostage situation. The hostages will be able to shoot the gunman and be free. Instead, we have to wait for the sociopath and the police to negotiate or untill the sociopath is done killing others and shoots himself or herself.

Then the results of gun control usually come down to one result, only the government and the criminals have the guns. Governments like Hitler's Germany, Stalin's USSR and Mao's China loved gun control. It disarmed the people so they could not fight back against their military police. Just to remind gun control advocates, these guys are on your side. Then back to the criminal issue, you wont stop them with petty gun control laws. There are other methods of killing people. Knives, poison, and dihydrogen monoxide are a few common tools. And if they want a gun that badly there are various methods out there. The most dangerous methods would be joining gangs (these guys love gun control too), or worst of all, the government. Some of the worst thugs of all actually join the police, and have commited acts between killing dogs on a whim to stripping women naked and leaving them in prison cells for hours. To be specific on gun crimes, we also have cases like with Oscar Grant, where he was pinned to the ground, cuffed, and then shot by a police officer. I could also mention the Kent State shooting, where our own National Guard killed 4 and wounded 9.

Anyway, I've run out of time here. Just to sum it up. I'm not worried about random little punks running around with guns. As long as I'm allowed to carry my gun to defend myself, I'll be fine.

Edit: Just to make it clear, my point with "Mass Murderers Agree: Gun Control Works" is that dictatorships like Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR had total gun control and it worked against the people.

Edit 2: I cant believe I forgot to mention Mexico. Go read their gun control laws and just look up how bad gun violence is there. Their country has some of the strictest gun control laws, but they are under gang/mafia rule.
http://tijuana.usconsulate.gov/tijuana/warning.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/0...3343.shtml