2011-01-01, 10:48 PM
Keep in mind that toad is 180 so you will be missing 100% of the time if you are level 160 and below. Same goes for Grandpa, lvl 175, so 155- will miss. Their damage has been reduced significantly and hp should not be a problem for any class at 180. Both bosses give good drops too. Toad gives elemental staves which sell for 200m+ b/c of BaM, while Grandpa gives VSS almost 50% of the time.